Posted Nov 24, 2006 at 12:00PM by Max F. Listed in: Firmware, Homebrew Development Tags: Germany, homebrew community, eiffel56
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A rumor isn't news. But when a rumor is big - then it's news. And when it's a rumor about the elusive 2.80 firmware downgrader... and it mentions Eiffel56 (remember the PRX Loader for 2.71 SE?). "Morgen Downgrader fur 2.80?" this German site says, and we just have to report on it, don't we?

the German site


2.80 Benutzer deurfen wieder hoffen, wie unser Forenmitglied Eiffel56 verkeundete, arbeitet Sie gerade an einem Downgrader feur alle 2.80 PSP. Erste Tests an einer mit Modchip ausgereusteten PSP laufen bereits. Dreucken wir Ihr die Daumen, dass Alles klappt.


Hab gerade ne 2.80 PSP von nem Freund bei mir liegen. Hab ein paar Experimente durchgefeuhrt. Demnach sollte einem 2.80 Downgrader nichts mehr im Wege stehen. Ich bin gerade am Programmieren. Morgen werde ich das ganze dann Testen, dann sollte meine PSP fertig sein, mit Modchip.


Our translation (helped along by web translators):

2.80 users may hope again, as our forum member Eiffel56 announced he's working straight on a Downgrader for all 2.80 PSPs. First tests with a PSP equipped with a modchip are running. We press it the thumbs that everything's all klappt [uh... what does klappt mean?].


Have straight ne 2.80 PSP of nem friend with me to [liegen]. A few experiments accomplished. Therefore be nothing more in the way of a 2.80 Downgrader. I am [straight at? going straight to?] programming. Tomorrow tests, then my PSP should be finished, with Modchip.




Update: Thank you all for the translations! The comments below have English translations (thanks to all of you who commented, we can't name you all - there's just too many!). We also got emailed translations - again, we can't mention you all! But thanks to all of you - your homebrew community owes you!

Sarah Michael (SarahBaby3325): I knew taking that German Elective would pay off---

2.80 Users can rejoice once again, as forum member Eiffel56 announces that he is now working on a Downgrader for 2.80 PSP's. Tests on a PSP that is modchipped are currently running. We report this that everything is clicking. [Clicking reffering to that everything is running smoothly ^_^] Having a friend with a straight 2.80 PSP [meaning Non-modchiped] to experiment with, A couple expirements are being accomplished. Therefore, there can be nothing holding back the 2.80 downgrader. I am currently Programming. Tomorrow, more tests with modchip and my PSP should be finished.


Jan Hofmeister: Since I'm German (and I graduated with English language being one of my two main subjects) I'd like to provide you with a better translation of the news post about the (upcoming?) 2.8 downgrader by Eiffel56 (who is a woman, by the way). Here goes:


2.80 users may get their hopes up again, as our forum member Eiffel56 announced she's working on a downgrader for all 2.80 PSPs right now. First tests with a modchip-equipped PSP are running. We'll keep our fingers crossed, hoping that everything will be working out. ("klappt" is colloquial for "working out") "Right now I have a friend's 2.80 PSP with me, and according to some experiments there shouldn't be anything stopping us from having a 2.80 downgrader. I'm coding right now, and should be able to test it tomorrow, since my PSP is getting a modchip right now."


Jan Rosemann (emnem98): Hello, I've read your article about the 2.80 downgrader at a German site. Because of the bad ;) translation (made with Google translator? ^^), I wanna help you with a better translation. Greetz, Jan Rosemann (emnem98) from Osnabrück in Germany.


2.80 users may hope again, as our forum member Eiffel56 announced he's working on a Downgrader for all 2.80 PSPs at the moment. First tests with a PSP equipped with a modchip are running already. We press the thumbs that we'll have a working downgrader in the near future. I have a 2.80 PSP of a friend of mine lying beside me. A few experiments accomplished. Therefore nothing more should be in the way of a 2.80 Downgrader. I am programming right now. Tomorrow I'll test it, then my PSP should be finished, with Modchip.




Update: A *new* paragraph. There's a new paragraph of text added to the German article:

Nochmal zum Mitschreiben: Ich denke es wäre eventuell möglich einen Downgrader zu machen. Ich habe nie gesagt das sich schon ein funktionierender Downgrader hier befindet. Abhängig von den Ergebnissen morgen kann das schreiben eines Downgraders keine 30 Minuten brauchen. Allerdings kann es auch mehrere Tage, Wochen, Monate dauern. Oder es ist einfach(zum jetzigen Zeitpunk) unmöglich.


the new paragraph at the German site


Google's translation (we're not even going to attempt one):

Again to writing: I think it would be possibly possible a Downgrader to be made. I have never said already the functioning Downgrader am here. Dependent on the results can need to tomorrow write a Downgraders no 30 minutes. However it can also several days, weeks, months take. Or it is simply (to the current Zeitpunk) impossible.


German speakers are free to make a [better] translation. Lots of thanks in advance.



Update: Work has officially stopped. She received too many PMs, etc. She simply needs time - she may continue the project.

Update: ARBEITEN OFFIZIELL GESTOPPT. Mir wirds zu dumm das mich alle 30 Sekunden(ich hab gestoppt!) irgendwer anschreibt und wissen will wie es läuft. Ich mache das in aller Ruhe. Und 2.80 is zickig. Ich brauche einfach meine Zeit. Ich werde drann weiterarbeiten, wenn es mir gefällt. Und ich werde drann arbeiten, denn das ist inzwischen fast schon was persönliches.




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   by JC (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » HELL YEAHZ! FIRST

But its probably fake


   Re: Joey (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » I SPEAK GERMAN

corrections in what's been translated:

*Eiffel56 announced he's working on a downgrader for 2.80 PSP's right now. first tests on psps equipped with a modchip are already being run. we're crossing our fingers that everything works

*i have right now a 2.8 psp from a friend laying by me (means he's borrowing a friend's psp right now) I have gone through a few experiments. according to this there should be nothing in the way of a 2.8 downgrader any more. i am programming right now. tomorrow i'll test everything, then my psp should be finished, with a modchip (*note* fertig sein can also mean dead or destroyed...but i dont think that's what he means in this case)

   Re: Digioso (Unregistered) - 2006-11-24
 » Translation for the Update

Well, I´m a native german, so here´s my translation:

As I said: I think, that it is possible to create a downgrader.
But I never said, that I already have a working one here.
Depending on the results tommorrow, I can write one within 30 minutes.
But... it could take days, weeks or even months to make one. Or it may just be impossible right now.

   Re: Digioso (Unregistered) - 2006-11-24
 » Translation

My translation is for Update A. :)

   Re: Dude (Unregistered) - 2006-11-24
 » They Quit

They quit trying to make it already. I dont know why thats just what it says on the site.....

   Re: W00fer (Unregistered) - 2006-11-25
 » gah

This isn't fake, Eiffel65 is a respected member of the portable news forums and other German PSP sites.

But hey, you American fellow's SUCK hard on those German translations, WTF.

If i had time i would provide you with a better translation.

   Re: zach (Unregistered) - 2006-12-03
 » ,.....

TURN OFF ALL DOWNGRADER THREADS YOU F$CKING WHINERS ZOMG
   by fake (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » dake

FAKE


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   Re: td (Unregistered) - 2006-11-24
 » ...

yep, i agree, probably fake
   by psmo290 - 2006-11-23
 » fake

i'm pretty sure this is a fake

   by garth (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » dude!!!

this is awsome! i have been waiting for so long! and if it is real and they found a way to crack 2.8s kernel mode, then my prayers have been answered!


   Re: Dustin (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » high hopes

i hope the 3.02 will have homebrew... maybe its a trick

   Re: wtf (Unregistered) - 2006-11-24
 » WHY?

why do u think sony will let us have homebrew after all the attempts to not let us have it on out beautiful psp's there never jest going to give us a firmware where they let us have homebrew unless they forget something
   by kike guest (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » guest

klappt -> "to work"

   by Seddy (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » Right translation

We press it the thumbs that everything's all klappt [uh... what does klappt mean?].

"Dreucken wir Ihr die Daumen, dass Alles klappt." exactly means "We press our thumbs for her, that everything works well."


   Re: Seddy(again) (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » Second Text

To make the second text more clear, here it is translated again:
I have a friend's 2.80 PSP lieing with me.
I have made some experiments.
Therefore there shouldn't be a problem with a 2.80 Downgrader. I'm programming right now. Tomorrow I'll test ist out, my PSP should then be finish, with Modship.(Last sentences is a bit starnge, even in german)

I hope I could help you.
   by Jan (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » Better translation (I'm German ;) )

2.80 users may get their hopes up again, as our forum member Eiffel56 announced she's working on a downgrader for all 2.80 PSPs right now. First tests with a modchip-equipped PSP are running. We'll keep our fingers crossed, hoping that everything will be working out. ("klappt" is colloquial for "working out")

"Right now I have a friend's 2.80 PSP with me, and according to some experiments there shouldn't be anything stopping us from having a 2.80 downgrader. I'm coding right now, and should be able to test it tomorrow, since my PSP is getting a modchip right now."


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   Re: covandy (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » A SHE???????????????????

WOW AN ACTUAL FEMALE PROGRAMMER LMAO wish her the best of luck an she may become a psp godess :P

   Re: RommelTJ - 2006-11-23
 » Perfect Translation

Great translation. Its exactly what it says.

   Re: bub - 2006-11-23
 » perfect translation

this is precisely what it says, no need to keep scrolling ;)

   Re: blah (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » blah

Eifel65 was the fa*got who claimed to have 2.60 beta downgrader, and then just lied bout it
   by kerimeton (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » klaapt

pressing our thumbs is a saying,
its like wishing good luck

break a leg

i hope this is true, it certainly might not be, but ive got a friend with 2.80, and he didnt even update it. his uncle did


   Re: Hitman (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » gimme your psp....

and ill shoot his uncle.
   by Boon (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » Tr4nsl4t10n

Dreucken wir Ihr die Daumen, dass Alles klappt.=Dreucken wir Ihr die Daumen, dass Alles funktioniert.

We press it the thumbs that everything will work.
____________________________________________________
ne and nem = eine and einem
I currently have a PSP of one of my friends. A few experiments accomplished. Therefore be nothing more in the way of a 2.80 Downgrader. I am currently programming. Tomorrow I will test it, then my PSP should be finished, with Modchip.

I am from Germany but my English is...expandable ;)

   by Dar Itaien Boy (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » This is real

vist:http://www.portable-news.de/forums/viewtopic.php?p=18204#18204

   by NaiD00 (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » ...

I hope that it'll work but i'm still a bit sceptical about it

   by Smartaśś (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » LOL. Because translating blows.

So what he is trying to say, is that he will soon be done making a program that can downgrade a PSP with 2.80 firmware to a modchip...err..uhm, softchip?

j/k :p


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   Re: Da steve (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » it isn't a fake

it's a girl. she also made a 2.71 se customizer. i don't think its a fake. I'm a german and this news page is belivable.

da steve

   Re: NaiD00 (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » Quite true but...

that doesn't mean that she will definately accomplish her goal, does it?

   Re: yeh (Unregistered) - 2006-11-24
 » hmm

..and come on she's a woman, she cant do anything, jk, good luck thugh
   by Bebop (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » Maybe

I was lucky to have downgraded from 2.71 but if people who have updated to 2.80 I would only recommend that you learn from your mistake and dont update straight away. Hopefully this should sort it out, but with rumors of this being a fake I am sure a proof of concept video will be released near enough straight away.

   by Dark Italien Boy (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » translation

1)it is not a he but a she
2)she is working at the downgrader
3)she writes a programm
4)she will test it with the modchip
5)she will be realease it

   by chrusti (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » klappt = to work out

;)

   by Anger (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » i wouldnt say

that it is a fake however we have yet to hear from the girl herself. someone posting news as someone else has been done on another site (no names, but check my sig on the forums) so its possible the person is lying about the girl working on one.
add to this the fact someone said we cant access the ipl on 2.80 and it begins to look unlikely that she will succeed if this is true. but until she speaks on here for herself then i shall say - not fake but unlikely.


   Re: NaiD00 (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » ...

That's what I'm thinking too...
In the Forum she said that she will try to access the Flash0 with the new eLoader (or something like that). I dunno how realistic it is because if it would be that simple i bet that other Programmers would already have made a Downgrader

   Re: coolraccoon (Unregistered) - 2006-11-24
 » the guy who copied the page

is G*y (not sure if you can type that)
   by Bone (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » Translation

2.80 user may have hope again, our forum member Eiffel56 has announced that she is working on a downgrader for all 2.80 PSP. The first tests is for PSP with Modchips "already running?"

   by vater (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » suess.........

LOL. downgrade without kernel? its a big fake ^^

and a nice promotion for the "kindergarten"-site.

greetz
vater ^^


   Re: thebeeg - 2006-11-24
 » er...

kernal has been accessed. jeez research be fo yo fool typez
+
   by Bone (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » Translation

2.80 user may have hope again, our forum member Eiffel56 has announced that she is working on a downgrader for all 2.80 PSP. The first tests is for PSP with Modchips "already running?"


   Re: NaiD00 (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » ...

They aren't already running. She'll test it tomorrow
   by Die post spammer (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » Die post spammer

Die post spammer, please!!


   Re: Max F. (QJ. NET Staff) - 2006-11-24
 » I have reported the spammer

QJ will ban / delete the spammer as soon as they can... Meanwhile, since we are talking German, "Die post spammer" just means "The post spammer" in German hehehe. LOL
   by sunami88 (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » seen this before...

does anyone else notice a trend?
i) sony releases a major new firmware (3.00, now 3.01 anyone?)
ii) there are unreliable rumors of an unknown dev somewhere making a downgrader
iii).... a few days later Fanjita takes the scene by storm and releases a downgrader for the older firmware?

dont get me wrong, i love Fanjita and the work hes done for this scene. him and his Noobz.eu crew are geniuses, but im sure iv seen this scenario before...

heres hoping i guess. my 2.80 psp was getting little to no use before the eLoader...

cheers

   by Spartan1T804 - 2006-11-23
 » shuweeet

I know there's gonna be a downgrader but when? Im actually waiting for a new discovery by the haxor gods for fw3.00!!!!

   by Fake (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » fake

it is a freeplay fake


   Re: FreePlay - 2006-11-23
 » Excuse me?

Don't get ME involved in this, dude.

   Re: Nicko01 (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » lol

lol, do you google your name or something FreePlay?

   Re: FreePlay - 2006-11-24
 » Uhh...

No, I'm just literate and can read comments.
   by Messers - 2006-11-23
 » Translation

I'm Dutch but I can read and speak some german. This is my translation. Feel free to correct my english.

2.80 users may hope again, as our forum member Eiffel56 announced he's working on a Downgrader for all 2.80 PSPs right now. First tests with a PSP equipped with a modchip are running. Keep your fingers crossed and let's hope everything will work.

I Have a 2.80 PSP of a friend lying here right now. A few experiments accomplished. Therefore nothing will get in the way in creating a 2.80 Downgrader. I am allready programming. Tomorrow tests, then my PSP should be finished, with Modchip.


   Re: Fruityth1ng (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » he's a she

I checked, in one of the other posts it said, it's a girl, I double checked, and indeed, "Sie" in this case is not a plural :)
   by TiM (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » What The Advantage?

Everyone's screaming for 2.80 downgrader, what I don't quite understand is why?

I didn't know anything about the homebrew scene before I stumbled onto this site (werid, I know)

Anyway I'd just upgraded to 2.80 and had ever tried the 2.81 upgrade but it was so slow downloading I turned my PSP off. I'm glad I did.

Now with the eloader, I can load HEAPS of homebrew and all sorts of cool stuff.

So why is everyone wanting this major downgrader? As far as I can tell, the only good thing about lower firmwares is it allows you to emulate UMDs? Is that the big drawcard? Or am I missing something?

Cheers,

Tim


   Re: impatient - 2006-11-23
 » not only ISOs

ISOs isn't the only thing, there are some homebrews that require kernel-mode (or something else in some cases maybe) that can't run on 2.80, two examples are Bochs and IR Shell

   Re: Haanz (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » Yes. Yes, it is.

Although loathe to admit it (myself included), a lot of "homebrew fans" are really just pirates, so .iso's/etc are much loved.

   Re: Annonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » Yep ur missing something

1.5 firmware gives you full Kernel access which means potentially more speed, use of the Psp Media Engine, more RAM availiable for emulation or homebrew. For example, Snes TYL running in kernel mode uses the Media Engine (a seperate 333mhz co-processor) for all sound processing therefore speeding up the overall emulation since the main CPU has less load and more time. Now Snes TYL running in User Mode does not have access to the Media Engine and therefore runs slower. You can also run all homebrew direct from the XMB in 1.5 firmware and overall you have more options for the future. Thats only part of what you're missing.

   Re: pirate (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » ISO!!!

Yesssss!!! ISO!!!!

   Re: Fruityth1ng (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » 2.71

1.5 lets you upgrade to the one and only custom firmware 2.71SE. Which in turn turns devhook into a transparent process. Which is lovely. And runs EVERY UMD, iso, and homebrew (.avi Movieplayer!) you want. Get it ;)
   by jsld (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » olio

2,80 users may hope again, as our forum member announced Eiffel56, work you straight on a Downgrader for all 2,80 PSP. First tests at a PSP equipped with Modchip are running. We press it the thumbs that everything folds.

*
Have straight ne 2,80 PSP of nem friend with me to lie. A few experiments accomplished. Therefore should stand 2,80 Downgrader to nothing more in the way. I am straight at programming. Tomorrow I become the whole then tests, then my PSP should be finished, with Modchip.
*
Again to writing: I think it would be possibly possible a Downgrader to be made. I have never said already the functioning Downgrader am here. Dependent on the results can need to tomorrow write a Downgraders no 30 minutes. However it can also several days, weeks, months take. Or it is not possibly einfach(zum current Zeitpunk).


   Re: dajusi (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » 3rd part missing words:

Third Part:
#
Again: I think it would be possible to make a downgrader. I've never said I already made one. Depending on the tests tomorrow, writing one could be done in less than 30 minutes. however it could take days, weeks or months or it is sheer impossible (yet).
#
The Dutchman said everything else...
   by daniel (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » @vater

you don't need kernel, flash0 is enough ... noob -.-


   Re: vater (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » daniel -> n00b

and what is IPL?? IPL without kernel? ROFL

greetz
n00b ^^

   Re: FreePlay - 2006-11-23
 » Absolutely wrong.

You need to have kernel mode access to rewrite the IPL (bootloader). flash0 is NOT enough.

   Re: Vater (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » well...

Who's the noob now?

   Re: thebeeg - 2006-11-24
 » er...

again ur the noob, flash0 is not enough
u need access to the ipl among other stuff (the ipl is on a seperate drive than flash0) sooooSTFU noob... -.-
   by Cube (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » doubt it

I doubt this is real... I reckon it's way too soon... I mean, the 2.71 downgrader didn't emerge for a long time... but then again, fanjita (the amazing) and co. did try and make sure it was stable before... although I remember all the noobs who didn't read the readme and bricked their psps..... oh well, there's still hope... I hope this is real, but nah... it'll be a month or two yet realistically


   Re: athr0x (Unregistered) - 2006-12-05
 » well, we werent all noobs..

but the first downgrader was... uhm.. experimental? :P .. anyway.. i had warranty, and when i got my psp back (after 4 weeks) the easy downgrader was out +)
   by 2.82 (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » will work at 2.82?

will work with 2.82!!??


   Re: PSPRIC (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » Lolll

you did upgraded to 2.82 even with all our advice.. deal with it B!tch! Hope it doesnt...

   Re: ... (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » ...

Of course it will [/endsarcasm] NOT...
   by njghjgh (Unregistered) - 2006-11-23
 » hgjghjkgh

*****..mine is 2.81 *****!


   Re: Hidden (Unregistered) - 2006-12-04
 » Jesus!

you guys are F*CKING IDIOTS!!!!!!!, whay you noob bother translating where there is a fair translation @ the start of the topic, its amazing how many noobs try n translate ffs!!

   Re: Roman2K (Unregistered) - 2006-12-05
 » Unfortunately

So is mine. That's a pitty :(. Hopefully some talented hacker will bother working on a 2.80/2.81 downgrader and bring us a magnificent outcome that will eventually let us enjoy our PSP as the homebrew scene.


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