Posted Jun 08, 2007 at 09:00AM by Jerico G.
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by random (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» booooo
First!!
First!!
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Re: manaox2 (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» what?
This doesn't seem right at all. It could never have another control set and still be called a PSP. The 8GB internal flash not only does not raise the price at all, but adds another dimension to killing off the pro duo format and reducing upgradability which doesn't sound like Sony. A slimmer LCD (not LED!) screen makes sense and some other features, but this sounds like a hoax that needs to be put into, as qj so lovingly calls it, the "rumor category".
This doesn't seem right at all. It could never have another control set and still be called a PSP. The 8GB internal flash not only does not raise the price at all, but adds another dimension to killing off the pro duo format and reducing upgradability which doesn't sound like Sony. A slimmer LCD (not LED!) screen makes sense and some other features, but this sounds like a hoax that needs to be put into, as qj so lovingly calls it, the "rumor category".
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Re: floxnard (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» not real
Yea, plus it's not at all like Sony to upgrade the actual hardware as that disenfranchises people who own the current hardware. I think they will most likely, just make it slimmer. The current hardware is fine. It wouldn't be worth abandoning their reputation to make the new one overshadow the old one like the DS did. I know some people who had a DS, then bought a DS light when it came out, because it had a bigger screen and was smaller and lighter, etc. Sony has, in my mined at least, built a reputation for reliability in the lifespan of their hardware, and I do not think they would want to forsake that just for some new sales like Nintendo did.
Yea, plus it's not at all like Sony to upgrade the actual hardware as that disenfranchises people who own the current hardware. I think they will most likely, just make it slimmer. The current hardware is fine. It wouldn't be worth abandoning their reputation to make the new one overshadow the old one like the DS did. I know some people who had a DS, then bought a DS light when it came out, because it had a bigger screen and was smaller and lighter, etc. Sony has, in my mined at least, built a reputation for reliability in the lifespan of their hardware, and I do not think they would want to forsake that just for some new sales like Nintendo did.
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Re: oajghepi (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» 8 Gb memory bull****
On todays laptops, you can only get a maximum of 2 gb TOTAL ram! So I highly doubt that it will be 8gb internal flash memory on the psp. If this is true, (which its probably not), it must point to an 8 gb hard drive of sorts
On todays laptops, you can only get a maximum of 2 gb TOTAL ram! So I highly doubt that it will be 8gb internal flash memory on the psp. If this is true, (which its probably not), it must point to an 8 gb hard drive of sorts
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Re: mr toasty (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» it's possible
8GB of ram is ridiculously unnecessary, which is why it isn't found in computers. there is also a big difference between RAM (volatile, fast write/read speeds) and Flash Memory (non-volatile, slower read/write speeds)
8GB of ram is ridiculously unnecessary, which is why it isn't found in computers. there is also a big difference between RAM (volatile, fast write/read speeds) and Flash Memory (non-volatile, slower read/write speeds)
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Re: dfas (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» dsff
maybe when they said 8GB flash memory they ment like insternal storage area...like a interneal memory stick that u could use... but idk. computers can have 8GB of ram though... but it is really unnecessry, 2GB is already a bit unneccessary.
maybe when they said 8GB flash memory they ment like insternal storage area...like a interneal memory stick that u could use... but idk. computers can have 8GB of ram though... but it is really unnecessry, 2GB is already a bit unneccessary.
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Re: Dookie (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» ...
1gb of flash mem would be perfect
1gb of flash mem would be perfect
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Re: 'old' psp owner (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» New psp new controls?
If they do make a newer psp with a different set of controls, and if even one new game lacks support for the old psp's control set, then this is the last time i buy a Sony product...
If they do make a newer psp with a different set of controls, and if even one new game lacks support for the old psp's control set, then this is the last time i buy a Sony product...
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Re: Fuc you are stupid (Unregistered) - 2007-06-09 |
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» idiot
8GB flash memory. NOT RAM. Storage for media, not running-programs memory
8GB flash memory. NOT RAM. Storage for media, not running-programs memory
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Re: kefka12 (Unregistered) - 2007-06-09 |
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» 8GB
the flash memory is def. internal storage data. not ram. if it were, the device would cost a lot more than US $170. although the price does seem ridiculous even for that much memory. plus, isnt E3 dead... like not gonna happen anymore?
the flash memory is def. internal storage data. not ram. if it were, the device would cost a lot more than US $170. although the price does seem ridiculous even for that much memory. plus, isnt E3 dead... like not gonna happen anymore?
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Re: mr toasty (Unregistered) - 2007-06-09 |
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» e3 isnt dead
just really really downsized
just really really downsized
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Re: wtfisq..jcompletelyretarded (Unregistered) - 2007-06-09 |
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» yes, they are
how would it be a different control set, the "control set" as you call it hasn't ever been changed, even on ps3 your retarded to thing the button placement is different so why the hell would you call it so, its just button placement not "control set" as you call it that would mean they are completely rearanging buttons which they would never do as i have just said ITS THE SAME ***** AS ON PS3 RETARD! (minus the L2 and R2 but then you still dont refer to a controller as a d-pad because d-pad+digital controls of a controller) retard....
how would it be a different control set, the "control set" as you call it hasn't ever been changed, even on ps3 your retarded to thing the button placement is different so why the hell would you call it so, its just button placement not "control set" as you call it that would mean they are completely rearanging buttons which they would never do as i have just said ITS THE SAME ***** AS ON PS3 RETARD! (minus the L2 and R2 but then you still dont refer to a controller as a d-pad because d-pad+digital controls of a controller) retard....
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Re: NOT RAM (Unregistered) - 2007-06-09 |
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» NOT RAM
Do you people like to add words to your reading? Nowhere in the article did it say RAM. it said "an 8GB worth of internal flash memory." FLASH MEMORY!
Flash Memory is solid state memory much like the pro duo memory stick. Its not RAM.
Do you people like to add words to your reading? Nowhere in the article did it say RAM. it said "an 8GB worth of internal flash memory." FLASH MEMORY!
Flash Memory is solid state memory much like the pro duo memory stick. Its not RAM.
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Re: Austin (Unregistered) - 2007-06-09 |
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» Dumbasses.
It says 8GB Internal Flash Memory. i.e. internal storage capacity on falsh memory, not RAM. And also, I believe LED is correct (light-emitting-diodes if I'm not mistaken). They are cheaper and much brighter and crisper in many devices. Though AMOLED would be better (Like in the iriver clix2).
It says 8GB Internal Flash Memory. i.e. internal storage capacity on falsh memory, not RAM. And also, I believe LED is correct (light-emitting-diodes if I'm not mistaken). They are cheaper and much brighter and crisper in many devices. Though AMOLED would be better (Like in the iriver clix2).
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Re: OLED Screen (Unregistered) - 2007-06-09 |
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» STuPid HUmaNs
Or.. IT will be a led screen... an OLED screen is only 1mm thick, flexible, and needs no bakclight. Very power efficient, beautiful screen. Original PSP should have had OLED not crappy old LCD.
Or.. IT will be a led screen... an OLED screen is only 1mm thick, flexible, and needs no bakclight. Very power efficient, beautiful screen. Original PSP should have had OLED not crappy old LCD.
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by Ground_Sniper (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» Wonder If
They'll Let Us Old PSP Owners Trade Em In For This Slimmer "Sexy" Model I'd Like That...AS Long As I Get To Downgrade It =]
They'll Let Us Old PSP Owners Trade Em In For This Slimmer "Sexy" Model I'd Like That...AS Long As I Get To Downgrade It =]
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Re: I_SAY (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» I DONT THINK SO >+(
I dont think so... :S ... remebrer that SCE just made the PS3 and that made them loose money (LOTS OF IT) remember they are reducing the amount of workers in gaming division... well they also made all that psp/ps3 connection capabilities... Im thinking that if they do that they are going to risk much more than loosing actual PSP's fans ... they will be risking SCE... (also 8gigs will raise to much the price... not just 10buks -the actual psp costs 160- )
what do you think ???? :S
I dont think so... :S ... remebrer that SCE just made the PS3 and that made them loose money (LOTS OF IT) remember they are reducing the amount of workers in gaming division... well they also made all that psp/ps3 connection capabilities... Im thinking that if they do that they are going to risk much more than loosing actual PSP's fans ... they will be risking SCE... (also 8gigs will raise to much the price... not just 10buks -the actual psp costs 160- )
what do you think ???? :S
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by somebody - 2007-06-08 |
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» ..
lol some bugs are in the comments... anyway:
"an 8GB worth of internal flash memory."
o rly? i don't believe it, why would anyone want to have 8GB internal flash memory? ok, guys who download games, or guys who run homebrew (although no homebrew would take this much space), both which sony hates. oh and for videos, ok that would be nice, but i think 8gb flash costs too much that it would be worth installing it..
lol some bugs are in the comments... anyway:
"an 8GB worth of internal flash memory."
o rly? i don't believe it, why would anyone want to have 8GB internal flash memory? ok, guys who download games, or guys who run homebrew (although no homebrew would take this much space), both which sony hates. oh and for videos, ok that would be nice, but i think 8gb flash costs too much that it would be worth installing it..
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Re: emitrom - 2007-06-08 |
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» 8gb is not expensive..
If we as consumers can buy 4Gb memory sticks fro m £40-50 then I am sure that sony can get some very cheap memory for a new machine especially as they buy in bulk.
I was hoping for a second analog stick personally and built-in mic for the VOIP without a headset.
If we as consumers can buy 4Gb memory sticks fro m £40-50 then I am sure that sony can get some very cheap memory for a new machine especially as they buy in bulk.
I was hoping for a second analog stick personally and built-in mic for the VOIP without a headset.
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Re: somebody - 2007-06-08 |
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» @emitrom
maybe, even if we say it would increase the price of the psp by 40pounds, which is not little, not enough people would profit of it, so i don't think that sony would build it in.
maybe, even if we say it would increase the price of the psp by 40pounds, which is not little, not enough people would profit of it, so i don't think that sony would build it in.
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Re: J Z (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» also
They possibly could do the 8gb for music as well?
They possibly could do the 8gb for music as well?
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Re: somebody - 2007-06-08 |
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» hmm..
of course i'd like the psp to have 8gb of internal flash, too, but as manaox2 already said:
"The 8GB internal flash [...] adds another dimension to killing off the pro duo format"
and sony doesn't sell the memory stick pro duo sticks relatively expensive for no reason ;) i mean, andone who buys a sony-product (cam or psp or...) has to buy a memorystick of sony, so they can hold the price at a relatively high 'level'
(nah, my expression sucks....)
you see J Z, what I say is not that the flash would be useless, I say that I don't think sony would actually build it into the 'new psp'
of course i'd like the psp to have 8gb of internal flash, too, but as manaox2 already said:
"The 8GB internal flash [...] adds another dimension to killing off the pro duo format"
and sony doesn't sell the memory stick pro duo sticks relatively expensive for no reason ;) i mean, andone who buys a sony-product (cam or psp or...) has to buy a memorystick of sony, so they can hold the price at a relatively high 'level'
(nah, my expression sucks....)
you see J Z, what I say is not that the flash would be useless, I say that I don't think sony would actually build it into the 'new psp'
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by nathan (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» 8 GB of flash?
I wonder if there will still be a MS duo pro slot... I guess we'll be back to the $250+ price point if this is true.
I wonder if there will still be a MS duo pro slot... I guess we'll be back to the $250+ price point if this is true.
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Re: calo (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» 8gb
8gb flash yeah right, if so, what are we meant to do with our old ones throw them in the bin?
this is bull
8gb flash yeah right, if so, what are we meant to do with our old ones throw them in the bin?
this is bull
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Re: ~ (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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could be that the 8gb of internal flash will be used in the same way the ps3's harddrive is being used:
install bits of games on it to speeden up the loading times.
Anyone ever thought of this ?
could be that the 8gb of internal flash will be used in the same way the ps3's harddrive is being used:
install bits of games on it to speeden up the loading times.
Anyone ever thought of this ?
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Re: doodad (Unregistered) - 2007-06-09 |
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» ^....why?
just run it as an iso and its almost twice as fast....
just run it as an iso and its almost twice as fast....
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by Chrizzly (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» riiight
"Hardware specs are to be retained (meaning it should be as homebrew- and hack-friendly as the current-gen PSPs)"
They are calling back PSPs in the Netherlands to make them less hackable and this new PSP will be hack-friendly? Not likely.
"Hardware specs are to be retained (meaning it should be as homebrew- and hack-friendly as the current-gen PSPs)"
They are calling back PSPs in the Netherlands to make them less hackable and this new PSP will be hack-friendly? Not likely.
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Re: kwastie (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» just remake
About the calling back of the console, it's not completly true, because i know allot of places where i can buy a psp :) so it's like a sort of hoax... created by sony?? Xd but i only think they will update firmware version because i still can buy "K" version(2.71 firmware).. and it's a remake only like ps1 and psone , ps2 and pstwo., there just going to make it smaller and cheaper
About the calling back of the console, it's not completly true, because i know allot of places where i can buy a psp :) so it's like a sort of hoax... created by sony?? Xd but i only think they will update firmware version because i still can buy "K" version(2.71 firmware).. and it's a remake only like ps1 and psone , ps2 and pstwo., there just going to make it smaller and cheaper
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Re: Chrizzly (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» you're right
@kwastie thanks for the replay. I just read that Sony is denying the callback.
I can hardly wait for E3.
@kwastie thanks for the replay. I just read that Sony is denying the callback.
I can hardly wait for E3.
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Re: Shadownet (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» No
no they're not calling them back, they're just selling out, read the new article
no they're not calling them back, they're just selling out, read the new article
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by Nsane (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» hmmm
i doubt that the new one will be as much homebrew-compatible as this one...
and it's kinda hard to believe there will be any hardware changes... just look at the old PS's ... they were only retouched... there was no hardware change...
Faster UMD ? hard to believe... it migh cause incompatibility with the old UMD's... 8 Gb memory is hard to believe too...
it's true that Sony might think that the psp can take the place of any Mp3 player anc become the new "walkman"...but... -_-
i doubt that the new one will be as much homebrew-compatible as this one...
and it's kinda hard to believe there will be any hardware changes... just look at the old PS's ... they were only retouched... there was no hardware change...
Faster UMD ? hard to believe... it migh cause incompatibility with the old UMD's... 8 Gb memory is hard to believe too...
it's true that Sony might think that the psp can take the place of any Mp3 player anc become the new "walkman"...but... -_-
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Re: mr toasty (Unregistered) - 2007-06-09 |
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» umm
it wouldnt be that hard to implement something in the psp to recognize and slow down the umd drive speed.
it wouldnt be that hard to implement something in the psp to recognize and slow down the umd drive speed.
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by dsi (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» the screen improved?
Will they fix the annoying ghosting issue with the screens in fast-paced games?
Will they fix the annoying ghosting issue with the screens in fast-paced games?
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Re: Chris (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» Likely not...
High quality screens (S-PVA, S-IPS) have longer latency times than lower quality screens (TN). I would imagine Sony wants the screen to be of high quality so will still use those slower, but much better color/detail LCDs.
High quality screens (S-PVA, S-IPS) have longer latency times than lower quality screens (TN). I would imagine Sony wants the screen to be of high quality so will still use those slower, but much better color/detail LCDs.
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Re: 007 (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» 8Gb is doubtful
I don't think news comes from no where, but about the 8Gb of internal flash you know the trend of Sony announcing their specs. The PS3 was supposed to be 3.6?Ghz with dual HDMI output. Now its less speed and one HDMI output.
Besides the fact that the flash does add to production costs and everyone who really wanted a PSP must have got one by now. A redesigned PSP should appeal to those who didn't buy it because of its look or high price and therefore the price should be kept to a minimum.
Unless Sony decides to launch a premium version of the PSP with a higher price tag targeting hardcore gamers, now that would be bad strategy.
I don't think news comes from no where, but about the 8Gb of internal flash you know the trend of Sony announcing their specs. The PS3 was supposed to be 3.6?Ghz with dual HDMI output. Now its less speed and one HDMI output.
Besides the fact that the flash does add to production costs and everyone who really wanted a PSP must have got one by now. A redesigned PSP should appeal to those who didn't buy it because of its look or high price and therefore the price should be kept to a minimum.
Unless Sony decides to launch a premium version of the PSP with a higher price tag targeting hardcore gamers, now that would be bad strategy.
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» ...
I see no ghosting at all and most people I have talked to report no ghosting as well....I think the ghosting problem is not as bad as some people think and only affects a small number of people.
I see no ghosting at all and most people I have talked to report no ghosting as well....I think the ghosting problem is not as bad as some people think and only affects a small number of people.
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by www.pspscene.net (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» not believing it
I still don't believe that this will have 8gb of internal memory. I could see it being released like the original Xbox 360 was. A nonharddrive model for one price, and another price for one with a harddrive.
And the current PSP firmwares are nondowngradeable, so one can only hope that the devolution chip can be used with this.
check out www.pspscene.net for all your PSP needs.
I still don't believe that this will have 8gb of internal memory. I could see it being released like the original Xbox 360 was. A nonharddrive model for one price, and another price for one with a harddrive.
And the current PSP firmwares are nondowngradeable, so one can only hope that the devolution chip can be used with this.
check out www.pspscene.net for all your PSP needs.
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Re: nunya_business (Unregistered) - 2007-06-09 |
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» to www.pspscene.net
frowny-faced for unnecessary promotion
frowny-faced for unnecessary promotion
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by False (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» False
False, and why does it say LED, shouldn't it be LCD, unless its talking about sony's new OLED technology, which I highly doubt they'd inculde at a $170 price tag
False, and why does it say LED, shouldn't it be LCD, unless its talking about sony's new OLED technology, which I highly doubt they'd inculde at a $170 price tag
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Re: OMG (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» Yeah.
OLEDs are not meant to be used in devices that needs to refresh constantly...
OLEDs are not meant to be used in devices that needs to refresh constantly...
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Re: manaox2 (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» I haven't heard that...
I think the reason they wouldn't be used is that it would make each psp worth about $10000 currently because the manufacturing of Organic LED is so pricy currently. I won't be seeing a portable gaming device that sweet before 2010 probably (and I will be buying that).
I think the reason they wouldn't be used is that it would make each psp worth about $10000 currently because the manufacturing of Organic LED is so pricy currently. I won't be seeing a portable gaming device that sweet before 2010 probably (and I will be buying that).
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Re: - (Unregistered) - 2007-06-09 |
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» OLED Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v+H7QbQugXy1A
Very Impressive Tech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v+H7QbQugXy1A
Very Impressive Tech
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by teh not so 1337 g@m3r (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» Meh.. another system to hack....
Honestly, I can see what Sony is doing. It partly is because of the fact that they must compete with the Nintendo DS. But also, doing this gives them another shot at stopping hackers. If it has a different control scheme, then obviously, it will also have different bios, at least in a hackability form. For all we know, this could be a completely new challenge, like the PS3. Remember, it took around 6 months to even begin to crack the original PSP's firmware, remember?
-Jeff
Honestly, I can see what Sony is doing. It partly is because of the fact that they must compete with the Nintendo DS. But also, doing this gives them another shot at stopping hackers. If it has a different control scheme, then obviously, it will also have different bios, at least in a hackability form. For all we know, this could be a completely new challenge, like the PS3. Remember, it took around 6 months to even begin to crack the original PSP's firmware, remember?
-Jeff
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Re: ... (Unregistered) - 2007-06-09 |
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» You mean...
"Meh.. another system [for other people] to hack...." It's really annoying when people act as if they help to hack the PSP, when really they just sit around complaining when an exploit in the latest firmware isn't found within a week. In reality, there's only a handful of people who made PSP homebrew possible.
"Meh.. another system [for other people] to hack...." It's really annoying when people act as if they help to hack the PSP, when really they just sit around complaining when an exploit in the latest firmware isn't found within a week. In reality, there's only a handful of people who made PSP homebrew possible.
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by teh not so 1337 g@m3r (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» Meh.. another system to hack....
Honestly, I can see what Sony is doing. It partly is because of the fact that they must compete with the Nintendo DS. But also, doing this gives them another shot at stopping hackers. If it has a different control scheme, then obviously, it will also have different bios, at least in a hackability form. For all we know, this could be a completely new challenge, like the PS3. Remember, it took around 6 months to even begin to crack the original PSP's firmware, remember?
-Jeff
Honestly, I can see what Sony is doing. It partly is because of the fact that they must compete with the Nintendo DS. But also, doing this gives them another shot at stopping hackers. If it has a different control scheme, then obviously, it will also have different bios, at least in a hackability form. For all we know, this could be a completely new challenge, like the PS3. Remember, it took around 6 months to even begin to crack the original PSP's firmware, remember?
-Jeff
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by Andy C (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» I call...
SHENANIGANS!
SHENANIGANS!
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» oh
yes! i concur
yes! i concur
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by Silver-Tiger (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» wtf?!
I can't imagine that there will a new control scheme. And a 8gb internal flash? you're even paying for one single 8gb mem stick around 160 bucks. And now in the PSP integrated? Compared to cheapest price of the PSP (149 with nothing in the package) it would be over 300 €...
An intregrated Camera? no way... the new PSP would compete with the old one...
One question: what are your sources QJ? I wouldn't trust them anymore, you know, there are a lot of people out there, who call themselves Sony workers....
And "PlayStation Portable being too bulky and too heavy?"
It's not much heavier than the DS and the PSP has far better hardware inside.
I can't imagine that there will a new control scheme. And a 8gb internal flash? you're even paying for one single 8gb mem stick around 160 bucks. And now in the PSP integrated? Compared to cheapest price of the PSP (149 with nothing in the package) it would be over 300 €...
An intregrated Camera? no way... the new PSP would compete with the old one...
One question: what are your sources QJ? I wouldn't trust them anymore, you know, there are a lot of people out there, who call themselves Sony workers....
And "PlayStation Portable being too bulky and too heavy?"
It's not much heavier than the DS and the PSP has far better hardware inside.
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Re: mr toasty (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» please, i'm a sony fan but
the psp IS way too big, even without a case it just bulges out of my pocket. A smaller PSP with a matte finish and camera PLUS 8 gb memory? seems too good to be true. That being said I'd pay way more than what they're asking for this baby.
the psp IS way too big, even without a case it just bulges out of my pocket. A smaller PSP with a matte finish and camera PLUS 8 gb memory? seems too good to be true. That being said I'd pay way more than what they're asking for this baby.