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By opening up homebrew on PSPs, we're giving freedom to the end user. They can choose how they use that freedom. If they care about the platform, then I hope they'll use the freedom responsibly, and run only legitimate homebrew, or at worst, backups of their own UMDs. Those that choose to pirate have themselves to blame if the platform suffers. |
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In all fairness, it's about property rights. You purchased the hardware you should be able to use it any way you see fit.
Wither it's to play your own personal backups, older ps1 games, or use it as an expensive tea cozy.
Piracy is a different issue, stealing is wrong. Backing up your games and using them on a different platform is not.
I knew this day would come one day, thanks for all your hard work and good luck in the future!!!!
O.k.
Everyone needs to just relax. I mean really. Why are you people blaming devs for making your psp purchase that much more valuable. I mean really. Imagine if you had a psp and you could only play commercial games? Man, what a nightmare. And what a waste of money too.
Some people need to grow up and be thankful for what they have and not have and stop being such babies. These dev's gave you a psp worth having and you guys are just throwing it away.
Grow up and shut up.
one more thing. good luck getting custom firmwares now. Dark alex is gone. Thanks to some people ( who will remain nameless )
J
"So you can buy it from a web site, pay no special duties or taxes, and spend $30. But you won't pay to support the system you love."
Yeah that'd be the obvious answer if:
1) There were any reputable credit card distros in my area (to order online)
or
2) I was old enough to process an international credit card under my name (which I'll do this coming month after my birthday)
i hate pirating i only did it once but never again by making a copy of a game and then giving away the umd off the game. i now hate pitating and have deleted the backup and now i buy my games.
Listen Vin,
When the downgrader was made, they made it so a user can run a CFW, so it can load ISOs, big effing deal. You can't say he opened the door to piracy, it is the END USER that is responsible, and another thing, by your VERY LOGIC, you can say Sony is supporting the piracy of movies because you can encode a DVD to a memory stick and watch it on the PSP. Want more examples? You can also copy music to the PSP, guess now we got music piracy covered. Thanks Sony for opening the door to piracy, even thou you offered this feature to us, and it is our responsibility to not use it for illegal activity. You were saying? Vin, what I am getting at, is think before you speak, or you may end up looking like damn fool. I don't know if you were told this yet, I haven't gotten around to read all the posts, I just thought I should let you know.
This also includes everyone here who thinks that the piracy issue is partly his fault, just cause he gave you the ability, doesn't mean you need to shoot him down. Sony did the same thing, because it was not done in the intent that piracy acts will be done, it was done so a responsible person, unlike yourself, can enjoy the benefits, while still keeping his or her act legal.
Go ahead and diss my comment, just because it's right. I don't care, think what you want, whatever helps you sleep tonight.
Ok, people have to be very very stupid not to know that it is their resposability what they do or not do with their PSPs. If you downgrade and its succesfull, its your dammmmn choice and you had good luck, if it didnt went well and you ended up with a brick, well your choice also use it to build a house.
Dammit sony should just be *****ing happy at this. Cant you see that every damm time someone comes out with a DG or something like it, a Dammmn UMD is needed? I mean helloooooooooo thats why the sales chart go up and the Homebrew community is just helping those bastards. You think this leads to piracy? HELLL NO, this leads to sony selling millions of Lumines UMDs and making more money than what they already have.
So DG, use well the readmes and use whatever games you like, after all, they are already rich more or less is nothing to them!
Wow what a retard. STFU
When i have cash, i buy UMD's, when i run out of cash....i play ISO's.....
Anyone who says they are downgrading for "legitimate homebrew only" is lying. Every single person I ever saw who had a psp downgraded or with special firmware was using their psp for pirating. I do it too. It's true these games cost way too much. If i paid for every game I have on my memory stick right now including psp games I would have to pay about 25k for them all. Unk that. Sorry man not gonna do it. If it is just an AMAZING game I will buy it. I.E. Wipeout Pure, Lumines, GTA Stories, Puzzle Quest. But games that are ported basically (Megaman, Metal Slug, Metal Gear, FF A 1and2, you are crazy if you think Im gonna pay AGAIN). Just my 2 cents. I totally agree its just elitists or those citing fun argument who are saying they dont pirate. Come on. If that were the case those same people would ONLY be using homebrew enablers. but they are not and we all know it.
But games that are ported basically (Megaman, Metal Slug, Metal Gear, FF A 1and2)
Metal Gear Solid:PO aint no port
neither are the Metal Gear Acids
what metal gear are you dribbling about
Libraries are full of copyrighted materials and yet they also have several copy machines....hhhmmmm
GO FIGURE !!!!
the downgraders are to HELP people achieve the ability to run homebrew, whether it be for good or bad reasons. Decent people don't take advantage of that and run game emulators or game backups that they do not own. If you choose to pirate, it is your own flaw. You cannot blame it on the downgrader, as it promotes good things, such as InfraRed capabilities, file browsing, a wider selection of music and video formats to be played rather than the standard for psp, homebrew games, etc. It is not made to promote piracy, but as an chance to fully enjoy the PSP's capabilities.
listen people, you get some of you saying if i was DAX id be pissed about all my work making other people profit, but just think how much money he makes he gets alot of people donating to him and i mean thousands of people use this and some people from give 5 bux here and there he still makes one huge profit off it..... it looks like he quit cause either ( he failed his exams and his parrents are pissed) sony thretoned him or he just wants a real life and not listen to all you people diss him and put him down. (same as fanjita and the noobz team)
Or he failed at making 3.51 OE, and isn't man enough to admit it.
Ok, SCREW this topic....
DAX!!!! COME BAAAAAACK!!!!
"I won't take any of the blame, however the end user takes it all because >>I said so
Why is everyone *****ing to Fanjita?
Wouldn't you want to make the most of your PSP? If the PSP can run Homebrew why not use it? You payed around $200 for it and your *****ing that Homebrew is a No-go?
What the ***** is wrong with everyone, Its like saying your Starving and theres a Packet of Chips right infront of you but you dont eat it cause you cant, Id *****in eat it.
Why are people angry at Fanjita and his team? So what if he created a downgrader? It let's you downgrade from Sony's 3.50 to Sony's 1.50. Either way, what you have at the end is something unedited, made by Sony. Also, isn't it all you retards who are always crying "When is the x.xx downgrader coming out?" I bet many of the people complaining have, at some point, used a Fanjita downgrader, or something else made by him and his team. Also, I wanted to address this post I saw on the first page:
"dont uderstand fanjita (he also has a paki name).
im pretty sure hes pirating to (just like evry1 else wit a CFW. the things he says dont make sense. its like listening to a paki guy lying"
I am Pakistani. I don't know how the Hell anyone can think that "Fanjita" sounds like a Pakistani name! That's like seeing the name "John Feng," and saying, "I think he's Russian."
Anyways, there's NOTHING immoral about downgrading PSPs. It IS illegal to pirate games and movies, but just downgrading is perfectly legal.
First off, Fanjita has a point and I agree with what he is saying. Second, we have the will to choose what we want to do with our psp however there comes a responsibility to it. Piracy is a major concern in our world and that but continuing to do this, you people are only bringing the economy down and that it is morally unethical. For those of you that are blaming on these wonderful hackers that do it for free and only want to show the true potential of the psp, you guys are great greedy as*holes, ignorant, selfish, bast*rds. No offense but the more you guys blame and start flaming, the more I think that homebrew was a bad idea to start at first. At first, we people enjoy the idea of homebrew and how we can make our psp do different things but now, you guys are taking it for advantages. I say that it was a good thing for DAX to leave the PSP community because I believe that the PSP Homebrew community has gotten worst. As for piracy, no offense but I do it too however I actually download the ripped ones and the games that I find good, I actually buy it.
As for those who are bit*hing and all, you don't even deserve to have homebrew.
P.S Thank you all PSP Hackers and Supporters, you guys actually helped us to believe that we can do more with the PSP then we ever thought :D
if there was no downgrade there would be modchip, like you have modchips for psx, ps2, wii, ds, x-box 360.. oh wait.. actually modchips exists for psp too, so.. what's the point?
The only difference is that downgrading is free, but wait again.. You say modchip is good and downgrade is bad?
A downgrade let you do much more things than a modchip.
Actually a downgrade let you trasform your psp in a Personal Computer.. OMG.. I got the point.. PC let you piracy, if you own or ever owned any modded console you should use you pc to downlad stuff, so what? Oh yeah, pc is bad, pc increase piracy, let's stop selling pc too. Microsoft is for piracy than, and linux too.. omg, we are f***ed. Just drop some atomic bomb, that will stop piracy... maybe..
I try many games when I finally find one I like I buy it. I've bought more games than I would of normally this way, I rule more games out on first glance these days because there is so much crap out there.
They expect us to buy on trust, that's why they put little effort into some games.
Too often have I bought games that were all marketing hype and why are all games the same price when they clearly aren't all the some quality.
I don't consider it piracy, that's a term of someone else and I choose not to accept piracy unless it's describing someone on a boat.
I think if you make a good game piracy isn't a issue.
Make a bad game and you'll need to try everything at your disposal to sell enough, even very underhanded things.
Just because one uses an analogy doesn't mean they use every tiny aspect of it. Yeah, guns are bad, but it's an analogy that has been used before. Jesus people. Give the man a break, they just said that he was getting "flamed" over making downgraders and now you're flaming him for using a freaking analogy. Whether you agree or not, nobody has actually seemed appreciative. And Zetsurin, DAX didn't include the ISO loader in the newest firmware. That was Sony, I don't know if you actually READ the articles on this fine website, but it said that Sony put it in there cause they have been talking about people being able to start downloading PSP games through the PS3 and on your PC through a specified webpage on their site. These people do wonderful jobs for the right reasons, we all do the wrong thing, but I'll tell you what, with all of the games I've downloaded...I had to have literally saved 5-10 thousand dollars, and I couldn't be happier. :)
I really don't get how people can't understand the Gun thing. Its a freaking "analogy" a stataement thats meant to be 'LIKE' something else, not a direct comparison. A direct comparison would be:
"a homebrew enabler was made for psp, should we use it?"
"a homebrew enabler was made for PS3 as well, should we use it?"
I myself have been around a few copied games, sure, but this was years ago. The only thing i use my PSP's downgrade for is to play roms of old defunkt consoles i dont want my room to be cluttered with. That's still wrong, and i'm not justifying myself on any level here, BUT If i want a current PSP title, i'll buy the UMD.
You guys need to relax, understand that in the end, even the downgrade softwares aren't given to you. You download them yourselves, so if you dont even want to be tempted into piracy, just dont download the downgrade software. I garuntee everyone here has an illegal MP3 on thier computer, just to let you know, thats JUST as criminal, we're not bashing our heads out with that fact though, are we?
Peace out
Prime
Pirates Of The PSP gets it. No one else gets it, but Pirates Of The PSP does.
For the most part people that download the games dont have the money to buy the games in the first place. Also some games are impossible to get hold of in certain countries, fueling the problem (problem being people using isos) Also some countries get game releases before others, which is wholely unnecessary, they dnt do it with films as much partly for piracy reasons. so why continue to do it with games when they know a bunch of people in one country who dont get the game for another month will be tempted to just download it.
with that said In an ideal world where people had morals and ethics we wouldnt need people telling us what to do. However, not everyone does and will screw the games dev and intern themselves. so as with age ratings and drink restrictions people need to be guided.
So stop implementing iso loaders in the firmwares they are not necessary.
Put it this way a firmware without iso loader is a gun without a bullet. it still looks flashy etc but it cant harm a soul.
The only reason i download isos is because like some one said many of the games we see out today aren't worth the price they charge for them. Now if i downloaded a game or software and its good then i start supporting the company/dev that made it as to let them know they are doing a good job and to keep it up. Becuse it hurts me to buy a game for any amount of money and then to find out its buggy or crappy
Why would people want to pirate, no...Why would people have the "need" to pirate? There are loads of free, fun homebrew out there, and none of them require pirating (as far as my knowledge goes).
Dear Ken,
Im a very patient and polite person indeed BUT this time I'll make an exception.
1. "IF YOUR BRAINS ARE BIG ENOUGH TO EVEN UNDERSTANT THIS MATTER." In That matter, go ***** yourself.
Secondaly, yup I agree when you saythat money is required for game developing companies to produce better games and that curently there is a ***** load of bullcrap games for download. But as a typical sony brainwashed employee you have missed a point in your entire conversation. Im NOT gonna pay 40 BUCKS for a game. If games where cheaper I would buy them for sure. For example I have bought tekken dark resurrection for 23 dollars (platinum edition). But when I see a game that cost 40 bucks or more (Most games in our county--Malta bdw--cost 60dollars!) I swear I start to laugh and think how great is the psp homebrew community and how GODLY are people like FANJITA and RIP DAX. So, you really think we should not committ piracy? Personally I bought tekken DR AFTER i have downloaded an ILLEGAL ISO. I liked it, I saw it a local store, tought "wtf it is worth it, namcobandai is a hell of a developing team an it is worth it (yup I know its been a long time since its release and it has gone *****ing platinum" and bought it. BUT my point is: developing companies should reduces prices there is no need for *****ing tards that perform market research to understand this. If prices are low more people will buy games automatically. The reality is even if a game cost 1buck piracy will still exist since people like myself enjoy the sheer love of commiting piracy. But then, still I go buy the game--if I and i repeat I, think its reasonably priced.
CEO PIRACY CORPORATION
sorry for having posted with your name Ken, I hope you understand my point as I think I have fully understanded yours.
Regards
CEO PIRACY CORPORATION
Fanjita: You have such a Paki Scum name, go away back to afganistan. LOL UR MUM!
The downgrader was made for legal uses only.
It would have never come to this if Sony actually supported Homebrew games and apps. If that were the case then they could also help safeguard their system from piracy. But no, Sony wants to be stubbon about it so people like FANJITA and A.D start a revolution in homebrew, but to honest peoples dismay, in there efforts is a way of piracy. But in all it is just like pulling the trigger of a gun. If you are against it, don't pull the trigger. But if your for it, then pull the trigger{ but make sure the gun is pointed to your forehead.} All kidding aside, Sony, you asked for this. Don't blame nobody but yourselves. But that is what greed does to these major corperations now and days.
When the PSP was first released in late 2003 (in Japan) Sony actually encouraged development of homebrew applications. That quickly ended when the first ISO loader was released. So again, we have the pirates to blame for Sony's decisions. Rather than target developers though Sony should really be targetting sites that offer ISOs and track torrents for ISOs. But in the end, it's all Useless.
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