Posted Apr 12, 2006 at 05:32PM by Mike S. Listed in: Homebrew Applications
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Those of you who have been closely following Fluff's PSIX project will be very interested to know that Fluff has recently updated the PSIX website with a message to the community.

Psix PDR (PSP Developer Resources)
Through the process of psix's conception, realisation and progression, it became clear to me that there was little in the way of development support, due to the closed doors on psp development as far as sony were concerned. The site ps2dev.org is now known the world over for it's assistance to developers in that of the development of the PSP SDK and various other tools, libraries and resources.

It is with this in mind that i start the PDR project, basically with my share of psix pro membership sales (35%), all of it will go back into the psp community, in the form of books, software and when needed, hardware. How much i end up with, to put back into the psp community is anyones guess, however i will do my best to provide resources to as many developers as possible.
Oopo, a site admin over at PS2Dev.Org, has recently come across fluffs message, and from the sound of things, was not all that pleased. Here is the questions Oopo posed to the devs at PS2Dev.Org:

So, does anyone else appreciate this guy:

1) Charging $10/head for a shell replacement built on our tools.
2) Invoking the 'ps2dev.org' name to help sell it.
3) Never approaching us for permission or even offering any funds?

I certainly don't. How about you?

What do you think? Lets hear your thoughts in the comments below.


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   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » this is a joke

why would someone pay for a shell?what's wrong with you people? jeez

   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » I agree

I agree with the site admin. I don't think that they should be charging for a simple little "shell" that is pretty crappy at the moment. There are many better shells out there that do everything PSIX does, and more. For example, PSP OSX is a good shell, and it's for free. PSIX hardly does anything useful, and we have to pay for it? Forget that. :|

   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » Just don't buy it

Don't buy it, he'll get the message...

   by gamerX09 - 2006-04-12
 » ......

I really dont like this idea of charging money for homebrew, especially if you upgrade, then it becomes unusable, and the fact that most other homebrew developers give there work away for free. But I suppose Fluff can do what he wants, so best of luck to you.

   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » {COMMENT_TITLE}

You tell the ***** PS2DEV!

   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » {COMMENT_TITLE}

He said like 2 months ago he was going to use this money to help other developers. He never will, he is in it for the cash, not for the scene.



Anyone who pays this scam artist for his total crap PSIX, is a retarded idiot. Did anyone try the beta? It had more bugs than a porn addicts computer.

   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » {COMMENT_TITLE}

I'm the second to say Fluff is an *****, I beleive that this isn't only untasteful, but also illegal according to many intelectual property and EULA laws. I really think Fluff and Co should consider giving the money they made back!

   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » @$$HOLE

I'm the second to say Fluff is an @$$HoLe! Not only was this tasteless, but I also beleive this was illegal according to intellectual property and EULA laws. FLuff and Co should really consider ending their little "venture" by returning all profits and giving proper credit to ps2dev.org

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   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » BOYCOTT!

I agree, I'm calling for a boycott of psix lite and pro!

   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » rich biy has a lotous and a super bike

just to let you guys know he has made exactly 2550$$ like holy *****

which he probally spent on his super bike and the lotus

   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » 111

fluff is good at photoshop he could have a good product if he got some good programmmmmmmmers

   by overflow.tiff - 2006-04-12
 » {NEEDS_FIXING}

{NEEDS_FIXING}


i bet this will be a torrent! mwa ha ha haaaa!!! lol
not trying to promote piracy, i'm just sayin this is what happens to sorry a$$ people with crappy ware.
screw psix! DUMBF/CKS!

   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » All of you who are...

All of you guys who are flamers, just are little kids with PSP's who's mommy's wont buy them the product.. Do you guys even know what is going on within the PSIX forums? I think not, you guys are retarded, so dont be flaming PSIX Pro members. Screw you all.. If i could, i would release the info that is stirring up in those Forums, but you GUYS ALL SUCK YOUR MOTHERS BALLS! You guys complain about how PSIX sucks and stuff and how IR shell is better, but do you guys know the PSIX is still in beta form? Also, RIGHT NOW THERE ISNT ANYWHERE TO PUT FLUFF''s MONEY! WHY WOULD SHE JUST GIVE AWAY MONEY?! PLUS, HER BAK ACCOUNT WAS FROZEN, SO SHE HAD NO ACCESS TO HER BANK ACCOUNT RETARDS!

   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » {COMMENT_TITLE}

{COMMENT_BODY} I think that fluff is being reasonable charging a small amount for his shell, because it is of very high quality and the time and effort that goes into the creation of programs like that on the PSP most ignorant people don't appriciate. However, most homebrew is free and should be free regardless of how useful it is because it is bulit upon the PSPSDK from the guys over at ps2dev.org, who don't charge for the use of their tools. I also agree with the site admin. Why should fluff be using their development tools and he gets 100% of the sales without him even asking the guys over at ps2dev?

   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » To #19

To 19, it sounds like you were stupid enough to pay for something that should be legally free, now you're trying make yourself feel better by putting others down. Shame on you and Fluff.

   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » To 21

Why should it be free? Fluff has been working on it for a while, why cant you guys just be like this huh? If you dont like it, DONT BUY IT, if you do like it BUY IT. Why would i make myself feel better for a product that i love? I agree wth number 20

   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » Fluff + QJ = Love

Fluff = She/Her, not He/Him

Either way, the pay for play surrounding PSIX was a bad idea from the start and never should have been supported.

Many of the admins and moderators of the QJ network are PSIX "beta testers". meaning they got free copies of the software and pused members into purchasing beta membership. QJ is just as at fault for this as Fluff and the rest of the PSIX devs.

I have questions about the purpose of this post. It seems that since QJ refuses to report on anything but the softest side of PSP homebrew, they've resorted to posting rumors and hardly gaming related news.

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   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » 21

There wouldn't be a problem if fluff would have asked permission and gave proper credit.

   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » To 23

Sounds like you are poor and cant afford PSIX, boohoo! Go *****ing whine else-where. Someoen would pay for homebrew, IF THEY WANT THE *****IN PRODUCT YOU DUMB *****!

   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » to 25

Well, Fluff did give credit! He gave credit to all the people on his team! God asswipe..

   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » hmmm...

maybe fluff can contribute to the homebrew scene by releasing the source codes to some of her psp "breakthrough's"? (video playback, multitasking...)

   by cory1492 - 2006-04-12
 » ...

I personally think that charging $10 is the only real way to keep morons from filling the forums over there with flames... it also kinda ensures that the users who get in and receive the test builds actually value being there (unlike what appears to be the case of a tonne of anon cows on this site)

That said I personally don't agree that homebrew should be a paid-for/closed source thing - but that is indeed my own personal opinion.

   by akuma2099 - 2006-04-12
 » Just don't buy it.

Like #5 said don't buy it. No one is forcing you to buy it. If you don't want to pay for it then don't. The person is trying to get some money for their hard work. Yes ps2dev.org did supply the tools but did they supply the time or talent needed to make it? No the tools are nothing without a person skilled enough to use them. It's like sculpting tools or paint brushes are just tools it takes talent to make a sculpture or a painting. I won't be buying this not because of the price but because I just don't need a psp shell.

   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » huh

you all teh dumbsor's

   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » PIECE --- OF --- ***** --- SHELL --- HAHA

First and foremost, for those who doesn't know Fluffy, he's an *****! Charging people for that piece of *****. I mean, it does look nice but come on!! Don't take the credit that you don't deserve and charge people for it.

hahahah... you IDIOT!

   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » hnnz

we all appreciate the hard work all you devs put into making programs for us
but leave the munnies to the donations

homebrew costing money = roflno

   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » Ok.

"Do you guys even know what is going on within the PSIX forums? I think not, you guys are retarded"

Oh really? I do.

Listen i cant hold my speech anymore..im tired of checking this website without anyone complaining about not getting any updates.
The Build of PSIX now is Buggy and useless. Ok, it looks great and does not go black screen if you dont touch anything.
But please give us a heads-up what you are currently working on!
And dont give promises you cant promise!
// Johan from Sweden

I'm just smiling away at myself right now thinking of how Fluff said coders are not artist and artist are not coders - both are not big on posting huh. I paid for access to a forum not for information on an IRC channel - I don't want to connect to IRC to hear information - that why I subscribe to the forums. I'm getting real bored here... bored of excuses... bored of looking at the same old information... bored of people making excuses... bored of reading sympothy plea's... bored of competitions noone is interested in. You see the pattern, bored... excite me.
Gimme and everyone else to look forward too, apart from an imminent release... the end of the world is imminent and so is another thread for donations.
Help me, help you save these boring forums.

Damn, when I read your posts, MacLeod, it's like your reading my mind.
I'm really pissed.
Is this a photoshop work Digital or a real snapshot (I doubt this one).
How much time passed since the release of the first "version" (if you can call it that way)? a month and a half maybe? nothing new, suspend the Music Module, and release some new versions, come on people.
Until this time, I think this is the useless 10$ I've ever spent (hoping for a change ), I'm no damn "beta tester", I'm a god damn customer (yes, I will keep bolding it up), and I'm here to get some honest product.
And no, I will not spend my time at the IRC, bring the IRC messages to this forum, and yes, I am demanding, not asking, as a real customer would do.
Peace.

This forum has temporarily died. Please revive it.







Even the people who paid money are pissed. Including myself.

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   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » You are stupid

Quit making up ***** about how pro is so good. It sucks and I have it. Also what fluff is doing is illegal, so I hope she rots in hell!

   by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-12
 » {COMMENT_TITLE}

when will developers leave the shells alone? the one that the psp uses is perfect, why use a clunky point and click interface? what does psix give that i can't do with the hundreds of other apps out there? nothing, so i want nothing to do with it

fluff can go to hell, all he does is make a huge drama to get free publicity.

   by akuma2099 - 2006-04-12
 » Fluff is a female you fools!

All these people that keep saying fluff is an idiot or he needs to burn in hell. You don't even know enough about HER to know that SHE is a FEMALE not a man.



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