Posted Sep 26, 2006 at 06:11AM by Mabie A. Listed in: Off Topic Tags: Sony, virtual reality, Jack Thompson, Take-Two Interactive, Cody Posey
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gta vice city on ps2Remember that incident on newsman Sam Donaldson's New Mexico ranch a couple of years back, where a 14-year-old shot his father, stepmother and stepsister? Well, Cody Posey is now 16 years old, sentenced early this year to state custody until he is 21, and is yet again involved in another lawsuit, this time, alongside corporate bigwigs.

Surviving family members of Posey's victims filed a US$ 600 million lawsuit, naming Posey, Sony Corporation of America, Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. and its subsidiary Rockstar Games as defendants. According to the suit, the companies are just as liable as Posey himself for the killings because they were in on a "civil conspiracy', creating entertainment that 'would spawn such copycat violence'.

The violent entertainment being referred to here is the video game Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, developed by Rockstar Games. The GTA Series depict police killings and other acts of violence. The lawsuit also tags the various editions of the game 'virtual reality murder simulators'. Said the plaintiffs, the game trained Posey 'how to point and shoot a gun in a fashion making him an extraordinarily effective killer without teaching him any of the constraints or responsibilities needed to inhibit such a killing capacity'. The lawsuit goes on to claim that if it were not for Posey's use of these products, he would not have killed.

As if to further strengthen this point, it was also stated in the lawsuit that the plaintiffs' lawyer Jack Thompson was told by a sheriff's deputy that the game and a Sony PlayStation 2 were found at the ranch.

On the other hand, Jim Ankner, spokesperson for defendant Take-Two said they believe that the suit is without merit.

And so we see another instance where video games remain to be the only logical answer why a minor would suddenly go on a killing rampage. From the looks of it, it sure seems like the gaming industry has now got its own McDonald's version when it comes to lawsuits relentlessly attempting to pin the blame on factors and events that do not necessarily have a causal relationship.


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   by MjW - 2006-09-26
 » virtual reality murder simulators???

"the game trained Posey how to point and shoot a gun in a fashion making him an extraordinarily effective killer"

Yeah right.. and me after playing all gta games out there now i am an expert in using bazookas to blow up police vehicles in my daily life and then steal their helicopter to go back home and park it in my garage and go to bed in peace after changing my t-shirt and saving my life to the memory stick...

Post number #1 said it all.

Why do they ever make kids if they have no clue on how to grow one up.. Its just sad...

   by ChaosTheory89 - 2006-09-26
 » Bull*****

What the hell, some people need to realise that its just a game and if they can't, thats where there parents should come in, there for parents should be responsible for there kids.

   by .. (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26
 » ..

this is pathetic, kids just use this game as an excuse to kill people and steal cars etc when really they're just *****ed up in the head.....

   by Phantum Zero - 2006-09-26
 » ?

I just wonder what video game Adolph Hitler played.

   by Shuin0 (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26
 » Why Are People In Court So Stupid?

"Said the plaintiffs, the game trained Posey 'how to point and shoot a gun in a fashion making him an extraordinarily effective killer without teaching him any of the constraints or responsibilities needed to inhibit such a killing capacity'. The lawsuit goes on to claim that if it were not for Posey's use of these products, he would not have killed."

First, a video game can't train you how to shoot a gun period. Its common sense when you want to kill someone else with a gun you don't need much training. Point and pull the tigger. Really come on now if you need a game to help to teach you how to kill someone then, I'm sorry you just can't be helped.

And people that sue people all the time really just need to stop... I would like to no how people keep winning lawsuit on stupid crap O.o who are the juries in these court cases cause they are bored line retarded

   by R.C (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26
 » WHAT A SURPRIZE

yeah, america is full of ***** like always the dobble standards and now this. now a days it must be easy being a parent if anything goes bad BLAME the following... MUSIC, VIDEOGAMES, TV. Im not surpized if they blame the wars going on on bush playing some command and conquer game... well whatever If someones kid does something like that and the parents blame anything else other than them they deserve for that sh*t happen. and maybe the kid was just F***ED up to start with maybe some bad chormosome in the parents genes who cares really. eather way games have ratings like movies so "M" is for MATURE parents. i dont see what a 12,13,14,15, or 16 yr old is doing with such a game or what lame parents you are for not supervising their gaming. im sure you dont buy porn for your kids and if you catch em with one you take it away. its the same for the game. so... you know just SHUT IT. have another kid maybe that one wont be F***ED UP. Try eating healthy and not smoking. also avoid drinkin.

   by cbrunos (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26

I want to be a surgeon, does this mean I just have to play trauma center?Or perhaps a lawyer,I do have pheonix wright after all...or perhaps a intergalactical bounty hunter:I just need to finish bounty hounds!

It's sad people are so stupid...

   by td (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26

its the parents choice if they wanna buy the gamez, dont they read the ruddy description on the back????

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   by Tetris (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26
 » #13

LMFAO!!!!! That is the funniest thing I have read in a long time.

   by R.C. (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26
 » PRESCRIPTION

DAMN IT! ever since i played dr. mario i havent been able to stop poppin pills.

   by Dude!!! (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26
 » Dude!!!

Lets say that he's not playing GTA but another shooting game, what!!!! he's not going to kill because its not GTA, come on the kid its bleaming the Game or its has alittle to much of imagination......stupid kid

   by Talbain - 2006-09-26
 » ...

*** damn Jack Thompson is at it again...

   by Talbain - 2006-09-26
 » ...

*** damn Jack Thompson is at it again...

   by hollywoodmvoiestar (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26
 » uh huh

how come celebrities never take blame like this?
thier lives are emulated more than anyone else.

if this is anything like McDonalds then in a few years the games will be more violent then ever,since the whole "eat healthy" phase passed by

   by sakura (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26
 » this should be a rule

Ok ppl agree with me on this one, when a family tries to sue a game company who makes rated M games for causing a someone under 17 (who shouldnt even have the game) should automatically have their case refused. i mean really the game is rated M for a reason, most kids under 17 cant handle the difference between a game and reality.

   by Kris_09 - 2006-09-26
 » If this kid shot his family, the kid was F*cked up... the game is rated mature. In a way the parents are to partialy blame for letting the kid get the game. The game didn't make him do this... his already messed up life did.

nocomment

   by sakura (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26
 » .

and why is jack thompson always the lawyer in the cases, its like the courts dont get the hint he goes wandering around looking for familes with underage kids who own a playstation and try and fake a lawsuit, if anythingi think someone should investigate jack. and why is it always take-two and rockstar, there are other publishers wigh even more gorish games. like GOD OF WAR. that has violence and nudity.

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   by J. (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26
 » American comments are uncalled for

If you have not been in the US, don't f**king judge....just because the lame media posts something in the US, does not mean every american does that...stop being ignorant, and open your eyes. This kid did not learn what is right from wrong, and I guess some of you didn't either.

   by Mentality - 2006-09-26
 » Guilt

It's all based around guilt, they feel guilty and as though they are to blame, maybe they are maybe they aint, it could have been the people he was hanging around with or just overly influenced (by games, yes it is possible) What am saying is, they feel guilty, so they just want to pass the blame, so they feel less guilty for letting him get so bad (again despite the fact it may not have been their fault anyway.)

But at the end of the day, he was 17, he was old enough to know better, no matter what games he was playing, he is responsable for his own actions, and should face the consequences.

   by Raphael (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26
 » I say

...sue the parents. Well, since they're dead, sue the next relatives (esp. those who now try to sue entertainment companies). Sue them to hell and bury them in a deep black hole for their utter dumbness and ignorance.
a) A game rated "M" given to a 14 year old
b) The kid had access to weapons which he shouldn't have at any possibility
The parents violated their parental duties at least twice. I don't even want to know how much else they diseducated the child. *****ed up families shouldn't get the possibility to sue other for their own faults, especially when it's so *****ing obvious (a game does not train anyone to do things in real life, you just can improve your reactions and intuitivity at specific situations, also the game surely didn't include the weapon, god damn).
The judges at court are also pretty much *****ed up if they give reason like this. I really wonder how stupid people can be and still get into positions where they get to decide over others. And that's not only in America... the courts here in germany aren't much better either

***** the world, 'cause the world is *****ed up

   by Warhawke (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26

Ok... How can a third person perspective game teach someone how to fire a pistol if the characters in the game can't even hold the damned thing the right way? GTA doesn't teach basic pistol markmanship, it teaches us that people are whiney douchebags and that stupid *****balls will blame other peoples idiocy on video games.

   by Vash (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26
 » wtf?

Really , a game could not push a person to do such a thing unless they had totally *****ed up morals in the first place. As if games are the cause , and yet firing a real gun at animals are never blamed. I have no problem with hunting , i have a problem with blaming and ignoring the issue of ethics.

An ethical person would not have shot anyone.. pixelated humans have nothing to do with the issue

   by wtf (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26
 » WTF

Why is this is in the psp section.


PSNFO OWNZ YOU!!!!11111


dont cry over spill milk

   by Wow (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26

I live here and remember all that. They seem to put the blame on anything but themselves. lol

   by ReadMeMyMirandas (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26
 » Uh-uh.

Being an avid Grand Theft Auto fan, and also a kid just turning fifteen soon, I can say that GTA does not turn you into a cold blooded killer. In fact, I would never kill somebody if I had the chance. And I'd like to wonder how such a game 'teaches you how to point and shoot a gun', turning you into a merciless killing machine. In reality, there's no R1 button that targets a nearby enemy, nor is there a large O button that automatically fires the weapon in a perfect line to the target. These accusations are nothing but crap.

   by Breakdown - 2006-09-26
 » dumb

hey, i got an idea. lets ban english books too since they teach us english to understand what is going on is these games which then teach us how to do these violent acts. cut them off at the source =p

   by @ 31 (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26
 » @ 31

QUOTE "31. » virtual reality murder simulators???

"the game trained Posey how to point and shoot a gun in a fashion making him an extraordinarily effective killer"

Yeah right.. and me after playing all gta games out there now i am an expert in using bazookas to blow up police vehicles in my daily life and then steal their helicopter to go back home and park it in my garage and go to bed in peace after changing my t-shirt and saving my life to the memory stick...

Post number #1 said it all."

LMFAO!!!

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   by metalspector (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26
 » well..........

I always was against people like Jack Thompson because of their extremist actions but few days ago I realize that when you go to Babagges and Gamstop most of the kids who buy games like GTA are just 9-12 year olds and although I bought GTA 3 when I was 11 , I feel a bit insecure that minors play that games , why? , I know that unlike me there are kids who there parenbts don't spend time with them and there are many kids who act by gropu pressure and there are many kids who have anger issues and there many kids who can hardly dsitinguish truth from reality , some of those kind of kids buy this games and have a capability of causing massacres. And I know the fault is not of the videogame companies but we gotta face that that doesn't change parents will be responsible , with todays many troubles ( especially in America as a whole , not just USA ) many parents don't have time to spend time with their children and parents like those are million so it's a problem that cannot be solved , that's why I think that to some extent we should limit what can be done in violent videogames.

   by Jacass (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26
 » wtf

These little *****ers got to face the fact that video games are not to be blamed for violence. I would not even think about killing someone and i played all the gta games and saints row.
IF YOU DO THE ACTION YOU ARE TO BLAME *****ER!!!!!!!

   by JohnnyBoyBravo (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26
 » @Europeans Bashing Americans

No wonder your your silly country is experiencing brain drain to a more primordial country such as the United States, with taking into account your prejudice opinions.



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