Posted Oct 06, 2008 at 06:46PM by Mabie A.
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 Anyone who's seen the new DSi handheld from Nintendo might have thought at one point that its features are oddly similar to Apple's iPhone and Sony's PSP. Camera: check. Music Playback: check. Online Capability: check. You may think it, but you're thinking wrong.Nintendo president Satoru Iwata says clearly enough that it's not an iPhone/PSP wannabe, because it's not after these marketshares in the first place. According to him, We wanted to have the device on them at all times. By downloading subway maps and other things, for instance, the DSi can be useful for applications other than playing games. It's all about making it fit naturally into people's everyday lives. Apart from that, he also said that the online functionality available on the DSi will allow users to "customize" their experience with the handheld. The DSi is coming to Japan first thing next month, November 1, and will also see a Western launch, though not till "well into 2009." Related Nintendo DSi articles:
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by Korlithiel - 2008-10-06 |
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» Amusing
So after saying they aren't after the iPhone and the PSP's market share they basically said that they want you to need it (over other devices that do the same thing) for your daily life.
Maybe I'm jumping to the wrong conclusion, but it certainly sounds like the same sort of marketing lingo you hear when they deny a new console in the works and such.
So after saying they aren't after the iPhone and the PSP's market share they basically said that they want you to need it (over other devices that do the same thing) for your daily life.
Maybe I'm jumping to the wrong conclusion, but it certainly sounds like the same sort of marketing lingo you hear when they deny a new console in the works and such.
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Re: ajnauron - 2008-10-06 |
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» Yep
"Oh no, we're not trying to drive out the competition, we're just trying to coexist with them"
They know the DS wasn't good with multimedia, so they tried to improve it.
"Oh no, we're not trying to drive out the competition, we're just trying to coexist with them"
They know the DS wasn't good with multimedia, so they tried to improve it.
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by vannk - 2008-10-06 |
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» if there's one thing i hate is hippocrates
when the wii came out(which I owned) they said they didn't add a DVD drive because their consoles were for the sole purpose of gaming. I would buy DSi as long as they admit the're in it for the money and to challenge apple and sony because the customer wanten more from their console(I will most likely still perfer my PSP to a DS)
when the wii came out(which I owned) they said they didn't add a DVD drive because their consoles were for the sole purpose of gaming. I would buy DSi as long as they admit the're in it for the money and to challenge apple and sony because the customer wanten more from their console(I will most likely still perfer my PSP to a DS)
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Re: chloe - 2008-10-07 |
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» LOL
Hippocrates was an ancient dude doing philosophy stuff. I bet you mean "hypocrites."
Hippocrates was an ancient dude doing philosophy stuff. I bet you mean "hypocrites."
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Re: gkrules - 2008-10-07 |
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» HAHAHA
You guys are both wrong.
Hippocrates was an ancient Greek physician. People call him the father of medicine. There is a crater on the moon named after him.
Socrates was the philosophy dude. He was condemned to death for corrupting the youth of Athens. He had to drink hemlock.
Dude you guys were supposed to learn about the ancient Greek people in like middle school.
You guys are both wrong.
Hippocrates was an ancient Greek physician. People call him the father of medicine. There is a crater on the moon named after him.
Socrates was the philosophy dude. He was condemned to death for corrupting the youth of Athens. He had to drink hemlock.
Dude you guys were supposed to learn about the ancient Greek people in like middle school.
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Re: mr.x256 - 2008-10-09 |
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Wii doesn't have DVD because Nintendo didn't want to pay royalties to DVD's creators (one of which is Sony).
Wii doesn't have DVD because Nintendo didn't want to pay royalties to DVD's creators (one of which is Sony).
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by kupomogli - 2008-10-07 |
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» This is ridiculous
People who buy this system and own a DS already are clearly nothing more than fanboys. Many of them bought the DS Lite after owning the DS and now they'll probably buy this and Nintendo knows it.
I honestly hope people don't do that, because the PSP and iphone does exactly what this does, and it's not like you're going to be able to play any extra games on it. So why not spend an extra 40 dollars, that way you not only own a DS, but also a PSP and you can still do the multimedia features that you want to.
One thing about the PSP if you use it for multimedia is that it's widescreen. On the DS if you want to watch a widescreen movie, you'd technically only be using an inch of the screen and a little less than three inches across. If you ended up zooming in, then it'd be nothing more than watching it in the full screen ratio(but it will be zoomed into showing the middle and it won't focus on certain areas or characters like full screen DVDs do.)
Any emulation done on the DS or any homebrew will also be less than stellar in comparison to that of the PSP or the GP2X.
I dunno, but for multimedia and homebrew, I'd probably suggest the Pandora that's soon to be released over anything else.
-andrew- -kupomogli-
People who buy this system and own a DS already are clearly nothing more than fanboys. Many of them bought the DS Lite after owning the DS and now they'll probably buy this and Nintendo knows it.
I honestly hope people don't do that, because the PSP and iphone does exactly what this does, and it's not like you're going to be able to play any extra games on it. So why not spend an extra 40 dollars, that way you not only own a DS, but also a PSP and you can still do the multimedia features that you want to.
One thing about the PSP if you use it for multimedia is that it's widescreen. On the DS if you want to watch a widescreen movie, you'd technically only be using an inch of the screen and a little less than three inches across. If you ended up zooming in, then it'd be nothing more than watching it in the full screen ratio(but it will be zoomed into showing the middle and it won't focus on certain areas or characters like full screen DVDs do.)
Any emulation done on the DS or any homebrew will also be less than stellar in comparison to that of the PSP or the GP2X.
I dunno, but for multimedia and homebrew, I'd probably suggest the Pandora that's soon to be released over anything else.
-andrew- -kupomogli-
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Re: kupomogli - 2008-10-07 |
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» Another thing.
I didn't mention this in the last post, but if the DSi is the item that Iwata is holding in his hand, then that thing is a *****ing beast. Forget about what I said about the screen being smaller. The majority of people wouldn't want to have to carry that around just to listen to music or watch a movie when waiting to do something.
I didn't mention this in the last post, but if the DSi is the item that Iwata is holding in his hand, then that thing is a *****ing beast. Forget about what I said about the screen being smaller. The majority of people wouldn't want to have to carry that around just to listen to music or watch a movie when waiting to do something.
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Re: akadewboy - 2008-10-07 |
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» That's not a DS
You seriously thought that was a DS? LMAO... It's a book or something.
You seriously thought that was a DS? LMAO... It's a book or something.
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Re: kupomogli - 2008-10-07 |
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» Moron.
I know it's not a DS. I own a DS.
He's held the Wii up the exact same way and it's just a solid black box is what it looks like to me, so my first assumption was it's the DSi.
I don't know if the DSi redesign looks the same or entirely different. I haven't seen a picture of it yet.
I know it's not a DS. I own a DS.
He's held the Wii up the exact same way and it's just a solid black box is what it looks like to me, so my first assumption was it's the DSi.
I don't know if the DSi redesign looks the same or entirely different. I haven't seen a picture of it yet.
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Re: raggedjimmi - 2008-10-07 |
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That's a Wii he's holding in the picture. An unreleased black version.
That's a Wii he's holding in the picture. An unreleased black version.
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Re: m-p{3} - 2008-10-07 |
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» ..
You really sounds like a PSP fanboy.
I use my DS Lite as a Portable Media Player and it does the job very well. I use my Nintendo DS Browser to access the Internet, Moonshell for multimedia purpose, and there is GBA, NES and SNES capabilities with the proper softwares.
At that price, it's a very cheap all-in-one device.
You really sounds like a PSP fanboy.
I use my DS Lite as a Portable Media Player and it does the job very well. I use my Nintendo DS Browser to access the Internet, Moonshell for multimedia purpose, and there is GBA, NES and SNES capabilities with the proper softwares.
At that price, it's a very cheap all-in-one device.
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Re: coolguy5678 - 2008-10-07 |
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» @m-p{3}
Assuming you're talking to kupomogli.
How is he a fanboy? He gave valid reasons as to why the PSP is more suited to the DS as a multimedia device (not the blind defence you get from fanboys), and then recommended the OpenPandora system (he's looking at other possibilities).
Assuming you're talking to kupomogli.
How is he a fanboy? He gave valid reasons as to why the PSP is more suited to the DS as a multimedia device (not the blind defence you get from fanboys), and then recommended the OpenPandora system (he's looking at other possibilities).
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-10-07 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
@coolguy5678 - He's a fanboy because he made a wide-spread generalized comment about a large group of people of which he knows nothing about.
Not to mention, he was dead WRONG.
I own a NDSL and I plan to buy the DSi. According to him that would make me a fanboy? Why?
Because I want:
1. Larger screens
2. Better WiFi
3. The ability to download games from an online store and store them on my DSi.
4. Upgraded audio.
5. Internet access for when my iPhone is not available.
Those are three major updates.
As for his ignorance about NDS to NDSL upgraders. The NDSL was a major redesign. For a lot of people, it's more comfortable to hold. Has much brighter screens. Fits in pockets nicely. Is much easier to view in sunlight.... I'm sure the list goes on.
So yes, this guy is nothing but a fanboy talking trash, looking like a fool and being utterly clueless.
Did that answer your question?
@coolguy5678 - He's a fanboy because he made a wide-spread generalized comment about a large group of people of which he knows nothing about.
Not to mention, he was dead WRONG.
I own a NDSL and I plan to buy the DSi. According to him that would make me a fanboy? Why?
Because I want:
1. Larger screens
2. Better WiFi
3. The ability to download games from an online store and store them on my DSi.
4. Upgraded audio.
5. Internet access for when my iPhone is not available.
Those are three major updates.
As for his ignorance about NDS to NDSL upgraders. The NDSL was a major redesign. For a lot of people, it's more comfortable to hold. Has much brighter screens. Fits in pockets nicely. Is much easier to view in sunlight.... I'm sure the list goes on.
So yes, this guy is nothing but a fanboy talking trash, looking like a fool and being utterly clueless.
Did that answer your question?
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Re: doubleA - 2008-10-07 |
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» Congratulations
You guys are now offically losers. What a waste of an arguement. I came for a psp update not to listen to some nerds ***** over a piece of cheap japanese metal.
You guys are now offically losers. What a waste of an arguement. I came for a psp update not to listen to some nerds ***** over a piece of cheap japanese metal.
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by raggedjimmi - 2008-10-07 |
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So there are rumours of Sony adding a touchscreen to the PSP, they've already "copied" motion controls from Nintendo. So now Nintendo add an SD card port and they're copying Sony?
Firstly Sony didn't have the foresight to add an SD port - it's a proprietary memory card that costs up to 4x as much as SD for the same capacity (UK prices, check planetmicro or Google).
And I for one care not for the multimedia features. I've got a 32gb iPod Touch. The pinnacle of easy to use and brilliant tech multimedia players, a capacity that Sony don't have a memory card for yet. Why would I look anywhere else to watch a video or view my photos? All these multimedia things are crap compared. PSP can't display DivX or DRM video, it doesn't support smart playlists or meta data on photos... And I guess neither can the DSi.
I'm guessing there aren't many people from Japan here because it's obvious what they're going after - the mobile phone market, minus the phone. They want people to use their web browser over their phones.
I don't know what I'm writing now.
So there are rumours of Sony adding a touchscreen to the PSP, they've already "copied" motion controls from Nintendo. So now Nintendo add an SD card port and they're copying Sony?
Firstly Sony didn't have the foresight to add an SD port - it's a proprietary memory card that costs up to 4x as much as SD for the same capacity (UK prices, check planetmicro or Google).
And I for one care not for the multimedia features. I've got a 32gb iPod Touch. The pinnacle of easy to use and brilliant tech multimedia players, a capacity that Sony don't have a memory card for yet. Why would I look anywhere else to watch a video or view my photos? All these multimedia things are crap compared. PSP can't display DivX or DRM video, it doesn't support smart playlists or meta data on photos... And I guess neither can the DSi.
I'm guessing there aren't many people from Japan here because it's obvious what they're going after - the mobile phone market, minus the phone. They want people to use their web browser over their phones.
I don't know what I'm writing now.
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Re: Techni - 2008-10-07 |
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» I unhappy faced you because:
1) You're fanboyish enough to believe Nintendo invented motion sensing. The Atari Le Stick had it over a decade ago. PSP was supposed to get it at launch with Mercury (but it was deemed too expensive). PS2 had it in the Onimusha Soul Katana and Resident Evil 4 Chainsaw. PC had it with Microsoft's Sidewinder. PS1 had it in some third party controller. N64 had it with a device that plugged into the controller and acted as an analog stick. PS2/XBOX had the exact same infrared pointing technology in the LCD TopGun.
2) You were stupid enough to believe the rumor about PSP getting a touchscreen. It's not. End of story
3) PS3 has an SD slot. And the point about adding an SD slot+copying Sony is cause it's no different than adding a memory stick. And the reason Sony used Memory Stick instead of SD is cause Memory stick is many times faster (well, it was back at the time PSP came out, not sure now. But Wii's SD slot is horribly slow)
4) There are SD to memory stick adapters. Don't complain about price when you were too lazy to do actual research. You can get get up to 64 GB on PSP with one adapter now.
5) PSP can do divx if you get it hacked and download a media player. And DRM video is always device specific. No portable device ever supports a correct amount of codecs, they always need converting. There are simply too many for developers to support. I doubt any support MKV.
1) You're fanboyish enough to believe Nintendo invented motion sensing. The Atari Le Stick had it over a decade ago. PSP was supposed to get it at launch with Mercury (but it was deemed too expensive). PS2 had it in the Onimusha Soul Katana and Resident Evil 4 Chainsaw. PC had it with Microsoft's Sidewinder. PS1 had it in some third party controller. N64 had it with a device that plugged into the controller and acted as an analog stick. PS2/XBOX had the exact same infrared pointing technology in the LCD TopGun.
2) You were stupid enough to believe the rumor about PSP getting a touchscreen. It's not. End of story
3) PS3 has an SD slot. And the point about adding an SD slot+copying Sony is cause it's no different than adding a memory stick. And the reason Sony used Memory Stick instead of SD is cause Memory stick is many times faster (well, it was back at the time PSP came out, not sure now. But Wii's SD slot is horribly slow)
4) There are SD to memory stick adapters. Don't complain about price when you were too lazy to do actual research. You can get get up to 64 GB on PSP with one adapter now.
5) PSP can do divx if you get it hacked and download a media player. And DRM video is always device specific. No portable device ever supports a correct amount of codecs, they always need converting. There are simply too many for developers to support. I doubt any support MKV.
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by jimftr - 2008-10-07 |
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» techni
i completly agree with you techni, i hate all these nintendo fanboys saying sony "copy" even though all these things have already been used before. oh and about the psp-3000, the reason it isnt much differnce copared to the psp slim, well thats because they CANT ADD MORE to such a amazing gadget. do you think sony can put a built in camera in the psp... no beacuse they cant at the moment. the psp is full of stufff and i think a microphone and a brighter screen is just what i wanted for the new psp. people expect too much from new psp's and when they dont get what they want they start insulting sony and moan. and one last thing is that your forgetting firmware updates, the new psp will take advantage of the new features it has with updates.
i completly agree with you techni, i hate all these nintendo fanboys saying sony "copy" even though all these things have already been used before. oh and about the psp-3000, the reason it isnt much differnce copared to the psp slim, well thats because they CANT ADD MORE to such a amazing gadget. do you think sony can put a built in camera in the psp... no beacuse they cant at the moment. the psp is full of stufff and i think a microphone and a brighter screen is just what i wanted for the new psp. people expect too much from new psp's and when they dont get what they want they start insulting sony and moan. and one last thing is that your forgetting firmware updates, the new psp will take advantage of the new features it has with updates.
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Re: kupomogli - 2008-10-07 |
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» Speaking of features
I don't remember exactly what firmware they started it on, but when watching a video and hitting Square, it brought up a sortof menu of each part of the movie instantaneously.
You could end up making each part 15 seconds, 30 seconds, a minute, two minutes, or five minutes, and as soon as you'd change it it'd change it that fast. No need waste any sortof extra memory to add a DVD menu. Each small part would also play a certain amount of it so you could see if that was the right part.
I don't remember exactly what firmware they started it on, but when watching a video and hitting Square, it brought up a sortof menu of each part of the movie instantaneously.
You could end up making each part 15 seconds, 30 seconds, a minute, two minutes, or five minutes, and as soon as you'd change it it'd change it that fast. No need waste any sortof extra memory to add a DVD menu. Each small part would also play a certain amount of it so you could see if that was the right part.
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by mysterysword - 2008-10-07 |
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» ....
I believe that the PSP would still have better capabilities. First of all, DSi can only take an SD card 2GB or less, and the PSP is almost infinite (8GB and 16GB out now, but higher amounts are possible. DAX speculated the possibility of many Terabytes). Although PSP doesn't have a camera attached, you can buy a 1MP camera for it, whereas DSi has only two 0.3MP cameras. Hardware-wise, the DSi is still pretty outdated, though. I applaud Nintendo for the new features that were necessary, but "all-in-all, it's just another brick in the wall".
I believe that the PSP would still have better capabilities. First of all, DSi can only take an SD card 2GB or less, and the PSP is almost infinite (8GB and 16GB out now, but higher amounts are possible. DAX speculated the possibility of many Terabytes). Although PSP doesn't have a camera attached, you can buy a 1MP camera for it, whereas DSi has only two 0.3MP cameras. Hardware-wise, the DSi is still pretty outdated, though. I applaud Nintendo for the new features that were necessary, but "all-in-all, it's just another brick in the wall".
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Re: Foolmonkey - 2008-10-08 |
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» NO
It's theoretically possible for the PSP to be able to recognize that much memory because that's the limit of the FAT32 format. Also sony said the 32gb will be the biggest MSPD. We won't be seeing terabytes any time soon without hardware hacks. And everyone here is wrong about the DSi cameras. It has one 0.3MP and one 3MP!!!
It's theoretically possible for the PSP to be able to recognize that much memory because that's the limit of the FAT32 format. Also sony said the 32gb will be the biggest MSPD. We won't be seeing terabytes any time soon without hardware hacks. And everyone here is wrong about the DSi cameras. It has one 0.3MP and one 3MP!!!
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