Posted Feb 01, 2006 at 04:18PM by Jeff C.
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PSP homebrew - PSPEText v1.0
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by negrito (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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Hey guys i dont know y u ppl are omplaining...i dont see any of u guys developping an app like this or better so shut up and give the guy the credit he deserves.. if u dont like dont buy it and keep quiet...u guys are cheap, all it takes it the money for 2 McCombo's (2x$5) and u can aford this great app! Hey Fluff great work, keep up the good job!
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by hakasforever (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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haha. gooman i am at a lack of words. let me say this
ur retarded. just read what you have written
+all of yall could do with beeing less of such ageist bastards. why the hell flame someone for being younger? by being active in the homebrew comunity, and i meen just downloading stuff, they are expressing their voice. without the younger croud, the psp scene would be a joke compared to how it is (regardless how how "N0oBy" yall think it is).
i have to reiterate on many people by saying, the 10 dollars is not an iritation. the Idea of requesting Payment (not donation) for homebrew is what rubs people the wrong way, and in my eyes is a threat to the community.
you can see more easily with open eyes guys. i know that a bunch of ****ing people on a thread is kinda harsh, but they have a right to **** and voice thier oppinion. it is the moderators responsibility to stop things from getting obsene. yall is adding gass to the fire.
im a 13 y.o. that doesnt know half a **** bout programing, hacking, etc. but contribute to this site simply by visiting frequently and hitting the sponsor links. do not push the youngins away.
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by omnirage (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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LOL...this is a riot...look how worked up everyone is! I LOVE the internet!
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by urusaii (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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should have released a decent free version. ppl would have donated afterwards anyway. greed is a nasty thing :(
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by Maxcre8 (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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Ow my This looks great :D and nice design etc.. tobad i'm at 2.00 allready :(
keep up the good work :D
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by soupbadger (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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Alright Mr. AssHat, you've posted that 7 times and keep deleting it. Looks like you finally got the name right this time. Except you forgot to capitalize the first "f". Tsk tsk.
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by Hataru (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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At one side I'm sure it took a lot of time and afford to create that shell but on the other... it's nothing really necessary and still it's Homebrew like "HOME MADE" and like "just hacking" and I see that there is no reason to take money for such things.
Better go with the fame ... everyone telling "fluff is great... that shell rlz" that would've been the best you could expect and now it seems you got nothing. Just lost time...
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by omnirage (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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You guys obviously aren't paying attention...not seeing the last couple of posts by "fluff."
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by comedy (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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i think all these 'pro psix' people are forgetting something. if you think it's fine for this guy to charge for his homebrew then you must think it's fine for everyone else to charge for theirs... they have all also worked hard to create something, and as such should be rewarded yes? and this is why i disagree with this guy charging for it, it means that if people are ok with it then anyone else who releases homebrew will feel like they can charge for it. i don't know about you, but i use about 12 homebrew programs, from the nearly useless 'hello world' type games which are simply fun, to the seminal snes emulator. are you saying that in addition to paying over 200 pounds sterling for my psp i should be expected to pay ten us dollars per homebrew? $120 for homebrew!! dont' you see that people who just release stuff for the hell of it, and people can download if they like, may just be discouraged by this new precedent set by psix? who would pay for that weird penguin game? i hate the idea that people are ok with this guy charging. it's not the actual cost which matters to me it's the very idea.
also, say 100 people pay for it, that's already $1000... 100 people is not a lot... all of a sudden it's looking like a 'business' to me. it's dishonest, have a donations page but do not 'charge'. i don't care that it comes later for 'lite' users, that's a load of ****.
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by soupbadger (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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I was pretty sure I made it obvious that the real fluff didn't post those...guess not. Yea he wants to charge for it. So what? People charge for naked women and stores charge for some things you could find for free. In fact there is some PSP site I found a few weeks ago (forgot the name) that charges for homebrew stuff they didn't even make. He is charging for PRO membership, that includes private forum access, which I have also seen people charge for.
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by Imo (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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fluff: you ****ing rock man. sweet layout and extremely promising interface. if you continue working on this (dear God I hope you do) after a few versions, this thing will rock more ass than all the immature ****-sucking ****tards put together in a small room with no lights.
to all the immature ****tards: STFU. damn idiots dont know how to appreciate anything...
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by nitekrawler (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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Honestly people if you don't like the idea of paying for homebrew don't! It's happening reguardless of how you Feel about it so the only thing you can really do now is vote with your pockets. And besides that, if all hombrew programmers feel the need to be compensated then so be it. People do invest thier time and effort into this and if they feel it's not worth it without a monetary reward then so be it. Reguardless of how we feel about this it is the way things are.Your only option is to get over it and move on. People have jobs and school they have homes that need to be paid for. honestly I like the idea of paying developers so that we could talk about thier programs via internet and ask them to include things and get my point across is a wonderful idea. Hell I do think that free is cooler and the people that continue to develop for free are ****ING SAINTS, but guess what it's the real world and not everyone is a saint. Once i do get a firmware version 1.5 psp I will be signing up for a pro membership. Keep up the hard work i'm sure more progress will follow.
God what's with people who think everything should be ****ing free? At least here in U.S.A. i'm sure you've all been dealing with capitalism your whole lives. It's rather simple and makes a bit of sense if you can't pay for it then go without. Or get a job and make some money. Jesus! you'd think comedy was starving in Africa. Boo Hoo I can't afford it if you excersize your right and make me pay for something you've invested so much time and effort in even though it's only $10. Boo ****ing Hoo go to hell.
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by Illegal Machine (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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I can afford it, I just think its a bad deal, and MAYBE if it was an iso loader that playes 2.0+ games without fail Id buy it, but its not doing anything special.
nitekrawler you're right in a lot of ways, however you cant deny that these people havent released anything substantial that warrants our hard earned dollar.
Fluff and Naoneo are just trying to capitalize on something thats supposed to be free... so do bottled water companies? yes maybe thats true, and you dont have to buy bottled water either, but would you pay for a bottle of water at an oasis? NO you wouldnt.
and neither will any knowlegable PSP user either.
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by nitekrawler (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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Maybe they haven't given us much yet, but you do get lifelong updates and membership to the private forum where you can yell at him to improve and add features. Like I said just vote with your what’s in your pockets people. You'll look like less of an idiot and there will be much less drama. Plus do we even know if this is the only free version. Give it some time. don't pay if you don't feel it's good enough and do if you feel it is.
I guess I'm mostly tired of whiners. **** tons of homebrew sucks but who cares if you don't like it move on. I suppose I just don't understand why people feel the need spew garbage that only discourages more people from trying to do anything I suppose. The PSP scene really does suck you guys. Honestly I'm surprised not everyone hasn't stopped trying because most of the time when anyone does comment it's to spew hateful garbage. I mean if you have a point fine but " Who's going to pay for this piece or ****?!" and things like that aren't necessary. I'll admit I went a little too far in my last post making fun of some people but honestly I wouldn't be surprised if all the devs just quit serving the bunch of self serving arrogant and illiterate ****s of the PSP scene. At least DS homebrew people seem to appreciate whatever it is people make even if it is crappy as hell.
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by comedy (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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you're right in a way nitekrawler... but i didn't think that's what homebrew stood for. i may not be starving in africa but i am on a very tight budget actually. yes 10$ won't break the bank but that's only one program. i don't like the idea that these people are charging because it sets a precedent. the homebrew scene would in no way be as large if everyone charged for their apps.
so you've never done anything without thought of recompense? it doesn't take a saint to do something for someone else's benefit without wanting money in return. in fact, that's what's known as kindness, and i felt before that the people who made homebrew were praised and lauded because they made this stuff without selfish intentions. that's why i'm very unhappy with fluff/naoneo, he's just being selfish... and if we all condone this behavior it sends a clear message to everyone else out there thinking of making homebrew.
i'm not trying to get at those of you who are willing to pay for this app, but wouldn't you agree that it may be a lot more appropriate to simply have a donations page rather than to charge for it? free updates? has anyone noticed that when a program is updated it gets posted on pspupdates anyway? we all get free updates as soon as they're available... this is not a 'service' at all. you cite bad websites as examples to be followed? such and such charges for all homebrew! so that makes it right to charge for some?!
it is just against the whole homebrew ethos. it's like piracy, that's what it is...
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by jordy118 (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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i really don't understand what is the use of a programm like this? even if everything would work perfect: video,audio,photo,games,browser etc. All these things can be done with the standard OSS, there are absolutely no advantages. Besides that i also things that the standard layout with the normal OSS works very good and fast.
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by Johny Deepthroat (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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LOL, omg... the comments above are great. Well... right from the getgo I wasn't happy with someone trying to pawn homebrew off for $$. Sure it's 10 bucks... that's nothing for anybody 20 and above (or working)... but THAT ISN'T THE POINT! It's friggin homebrew guys! The premise that people operate on is that it's free. And judging by the comments (the billion of them before mine) this particular piece of homebrew isn't at all what it's chalked up to be. And don't give me that "It's the lite version, ****." cause it's NOT. The author specifically says,
"I would also like to make it clear that Psix pro membership ($9.99) is not payment for psix itself, the fee is for pro membership, which entitles the user to private forum access, and access to the latest updates and advancements, months before they are added to Psix lite (which will be updated with new features)."
So.... what I take from this is that PSIX lite and PSIX Pro should start out as the same program... then pro gets new features added to it MoNtHs ahead of the lite version. Well... from the comments above the lite version does absosmurfly nawthin except load UMD's (what a breakthru). The only way I'd pay for this is so that I could throw it down on a torrent site and offer it to the rest of you. I think PSIX made a mistake with this one.
I'm hoping somebody gives a good going over their code to make sure there isn't any GPL code in there... which is required by law to be free.
What happens at this point can only be described by Dave Chapelle as what happens when keepin it real goes wrong!
LOLoz
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by Johny Deepthroat (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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UPDATE:
tested out PSIX lite. My findings are thus:
-it takes a LONG time to load. 19 seconds from when you actually click the program name from your GAME menu. 11 seconds if you disregard the PSP bubbly screen at the forefront.
-lack of functionality. I can launch the programs that are on the desktop, yet I can't scroll down to the rest of them.
-no browser
-audio, video, image, and file browser doesn't work... at all.
Geeze guys. It would have made ALOT more sense to have released something with semi-functionality rather than this. You're asking people to pay you on your word alone? We don't know you.... the only thing we do know is that you're the only PSP homebrew developer to charge money for his/her homebrew release... and that's not enough to go on.
BTW: it's not about the money here guys, it's about what homebrew IS... and what these guys are tryign to make it BECOME.
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by WarLord (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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Hopefully more programmers will do exactly what Fluff n' crew is doing.[Charging for their hard work] Then maybe it'll drive away all the pissheads that infest this damn site everyday. All these members that come here and complain about every little obstacle and downside shows to me that perhaps homebrew shouldn't be as famous as it is now. [2% isn't much, but it sure as hell feels like 50%...which ain't good.]
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by j-money (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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man.. such controversy. well I have to say I applaud Fluff for taking the time to build something that is slick, customizable, and eventually feature packed.
I think everyone should just settle down, enjoy the homebrew scene, their psp's and let some talented programmers do their tricks.
If you like it, upon final release, support the cause. If not, don't scream out about it. It hurts the scene more than else.
The problem right now is it's an early beta and everyone is freaking on it. Hopefully fluff will be able to get integrated RSS feeds, audio visualizations, and a host of other features. It's more about customizing your box. I am all for it.
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by Johny Deepthroat (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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re: WarLord
You actually WANT people to start charging for their homebrew? LOL, I gotta say.... all these "pro-compensation" posts sound like they're coming from fluff himself. You write homebrew for the love of the platform.... not for monetary returns.... idiots. As far as I'm concerned... only a teenager would charge $$ for homebrew.
Oh, btw... I should have noted in my post above that the GUI for this program is actually quite nice, however, it's about as functional as the PNG that it's comprised of.
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by nitekrawler (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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I'm simply saying that reguardless of how you all feel about it this is the way this homebrew app is. You can pay or not. Just don't flame the people who put hard work into it. Be constructive with your criticism. And people if it really bothers you don't pay for it. That is all you can do. It doesn't matter what we think homebrew should be. What matters is what is. If you refuse to pay because you feel that it would start a precendent towards more paying homebrew then do so i happily support you. However I must reiterate that it still doesn't change the way this is.
p.s. I dont want everyone in the homebrew community to start charging but guess what if there's an app i do want and I feel it's worth it i'll gladly pay. Because once more these people can do what they like with what they create. Yes it'd be nice if everyone gave away thier hard work for free, real nice but that's not how this case is working so stop whining and get over it. The only you say you have is wether to purchase or not. Nothing more. VOTE WITH YOUR POCKETS. Show him in the way that matters to him you don't think this is a good idea because honestly that's all you really can do. I'm all for people buying or not buying this program depending on thier feelings of it.
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by GR81 (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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Isn't it ironic how people are jumping on Fluff's back regarding the legality of charging for the Pro version?
Afterall most people have 1.5 PSP's so they can either play MP3s, ROMs or ISO's that they don't legally own!
The phrase 'pot calling the kettle black' comes to mind.
Hypocrites.
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by Max (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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If you've actually read though all the comments down to this one, you're a turbo geek without a life.
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by asher (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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yeah and i suppose youre the coolest guy ...
and that comment saves you from being geek... as if.
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by Lead Laden, My Thoughts Taken (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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Damn it. Got me there. :P
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by comedy (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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lol, turbo geek. i'll add that to my 'hot or not' entry.
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by Ageless (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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i'm so geeky i'm doing it in turbo mode. woot!
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lol nice
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by caffeine_nicotine (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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shiet i am uber Max-imum turbo geek!! so the **** what!?
i see both sides to this... to tell ya the truth... a few months from now, i'll probably see a torrent for this anyway. ahh yes, the legalities and illegalities (is there such a word) firmware 1.5 brings!
i'm also pretty sure Sony's heard of this, and are probably working on circumventing psix future progress on newer firmware.
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by Illegal Machine (Unregistered) - 2006-02-01 |
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you know what.. I said it before and I'll say it again...
MAINLY BECAUSE MY POSTS ARE GETTING DELETED!!!
You mods arent the censorship board...
Im kind of getting sick of being censored because someones precious feelings are being hurt by my comments...
HOWEVER, no one here would ever pay good money for a bottle of bitter water while everyone else was drinking from a mountain stream right in front of you.
therefore no one in thier right mind should be paying good money for this either!
DON'T DELETE THIS!
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