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by tinjastin - 2008-03-10 |
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» Sorry but i love piracy...
First!
well sad to say piracy is very rampant all over the world, specially in asian countries... anyways i love piracy, sorry to say that i aint gonna buy original copies of this games bcoz i aint got the money its really expensive even its 20$ still i aint gonna buy it, here in our country psp games are as low as 1$ sometimes half of it, any games even the latest... but if im rich enough then why not buy original right...
hate me if you want, but thats the reality of it... Sorry to Sony and other gaming consoles as well, music and movies industry...Piracy still rulez!
First!
well sad to say piracy is very rampant all over the world, specially in asian countries... anyways i love piracy, sorry to say that i aint gonna buy original copies of this games bcoz i aint got the money its really expensive even its 20$ still i aint gonna buy it, here in our country psp games are as low as 1$ sometimes half of it, any games even the latest... but if im rich enough then why not buy original right...
hate me if you want, but thats the reality of it... Sorry to Sony and other gaming consoles as well, music and movies industry...Piracy still rulez!
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Re: bloody0986 - 2008-03-10 |
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» I have to admit. Me too.
I too, also pirate games, but its also because most of us are poor as heck, or maybe most of us are kids who just can't get their parents to buy as simple $20-$50 or something game. I really try to buy the game after I prate it though, but think about it, those game makers are filthy rich(Most of them.) Plus most Asian countries like the first poster said DO have SO MUCH piracy. The police practically don't even care. They might even buy from the pirates(Or whatever you call them.) Still, sorry Sony,Microsoft,etc,etc. Also sorry to the people who buy their games and will probably hate me and the other poor or unpersuasive people who pirate games.
I too, also pirate games, but its also because most of us are poor as heck, or maybe most of us are kids who just can't get their parents to buy as simple $20-$50 or something game. I really try to buy the game after I prate it though, but think about it, those game makers are filthy rich(Most of them.) Plus most Asian countries like the first poster said DO have SO MUCH piracy. The police practically don't even care. They might even buy from the pirates(Or whatever you call them.) Still, sorry Sony,Microsoft,etc,etc. Also sorry to the people who buy their games and will probably hate me and the other poor or unpersuasive people who pirate games.
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Re: The Uncreated - 2008-03-10 |
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» On Sharing..
Article comment said: "Itching to share?"
I've got a zero day CSO of Space Invaders Extreme for distribution. Does that count?
Uncreated
Article comment said: "Itching to share?"
I've got a zero day CSO of Space Invaders Extreme for distribution. Does that count?
Uncreated
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Re: StingBlah - 2008-03-10 |
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» piracy FTW.
I pirate not because I cannot afford the games, or because I dont have access to them.
I've pirated every single one of the 20 + games I've played on the PSP simply because I am GREEDY. Also, pirating and makin fun of dumbos who pay for games is fun.
altho this sorta backfired on me. Not paying for the games, I have no respect or inclination to play them. Before when I bought a game, I would try to play it ot the fullest extent and milk every drop of fun out of it. Now, I dont care. If i dont like the first couple hours of the game, I say screw it and move to another one. Essentially, playing psp games isnt that fun anymore if I dont pay for them :(
I pirate not because I cannot afford the games, or because I dont have access to them.
I've pirated every single one of the 20 + games I've played on the PSP simply because I am GREEDY. Also, pirating and makin fun of dumbos who pay for games is fun.
altho this sorta backfired on me. Not paying for the games, I have no respect or inclination to play them. Before when I bought a game, I would try to play it ot the fullest extent and milk every drop of fun out of it. Now, I dont care. If i dont like the first couple hours of the game, I say screw it and move to another one. Essentially, playing psp games isnt that fun anymore if I dont pay for them :(
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Re: trondah - 2008-03-10 |
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» RE Piracy FTW
I'm ashamed to admit I'm the same. I spend more time copying games onto my PSP than actually playing them. Patapon and GoW are the first I've actually played a lot, so games are getting very good now :) Finished GoW! Too cheap to pay for the UMD though... I will burn, I know...
I'm ashamed to admit I'm the same. I spend more time copying games onto my PSP than actually playing them. Patapon and GoW are the first I've actually played a lot, so games are getting very good now :) Finished GoW! Too cheap to pay for the UMD though... I will burn, I know...
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Re: NakedFaerie - 2008-03-11 |
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» I agree
I agree with you 100%. Piracey is good. :P
The only way to stop piracey is to drop the prices from $100 to $20. I would buy games for $20 but I wont buy them for $100. It costs me $20 to rent 2 games these days so if they cost $20 to buy then you can have my money. I do buy old, second hand games as they are $20 but new ones I will never buy at thier stupid high prices.
There is NO way anyone can stop piracy. It will always be around. If you have a good look at it when we download games it still costs us download usage, time, blank dvd/cd, ink for printing covers/dvd or if you dont download but rent then copy like I do it costs to rent too.
Oh, piracey will alwasy be around also if they release at different times around the world. Here in OZ games/movies are released sometimes months after being released in the US so of course there will be piracey for those people left out of the initial release.
IF and I doubt anyone in authority will read this, 2 things to do to stop piracey. 1, drop the price to sopething everyone can afford. 2, worldwide release at same time.
I agree with you 100%. Piracey is good. :P
The only way to stop piracey is to drop the prices from $100 to $20. I would buy games for $20 but I wont buy them for $100. It costs me $20 to rent 2 games these days so if they cost $20 to buy then you can have my money. I do buy old, second hand games as they are $20 but new ones I will never buy at thier stupid high prices.
There is NO way anyone can stop piracy. It will always be around. If you have a good look at it when we download games it still costs us download usage, time, blank dvd/cd, ink for printing covers/dvd or if you dont download but rent then copy like I do it costs to rent too.
Oh, piracey will alwasy be around also if they release at different times around the world. Here in OZ games/movies are released sometimes months after being released in the US so of course there will be piracey for those people left out of the initial release.
IF and I doubt anyone in authority will read this, 2 things to do to stop piracey. 1, drop the price to sopething everyone can afford. 2, worldwide release at same time.
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by roddollente - 2008-03-10 |
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» all i have to say is
torrents actually help me in deciding which game to play. for example, valhalla knights for the psp costs $49, but it is total crap. i'm sure no one wants to spend $49-59 to play a below average game. surprisingly, patapon is only $19. which is a very good game.
playing iso's and cso's is FASTER that playing it off the UMD. but i actually bought nba live 08 for $50. and i didn't like the gameplay. you can hardly block. and players always do a step-back jumper instead of a layup, so the ball goes behind the backboard (which sucks big time).
i actually want to buy games that are worth it. i will definitely buy God of War even though i already finished the game earlier this night. only 9.5 hours, unlocked all chests, and upgraded all weapons and magic. but it is a good game. so i will buy the umd, so i could still play it without the need of consuming my memory stick's space.
and to tinjastin, yea, i can't blame him if he loves piracy. not everyone can afford to buy all the games that they want. besides, those guys (the one who makes games) are already rich as hell. hmm...
torrents actually help me in deciding which game to play. for example, valhalla knights for the psp costs $49, but it is total crap. i'm sure no one wants to spend $49-59 to play a below average game. surprisingly, patapon is only $19. which is a very good game.
playing iso's and cso's is FASTER that playing it off the UMD. but i actually bought nba live 08 for $50. and i didn't like the gameplay. you can hardly block. and players always do a step-back jumper instead of a layup, so the ball goes behind the backboard (which sucks big time).
i actually want to buy games that are worth it. i will definitely buy God of War even though i already finished the game earlier this night. only 9.5 hours, unlocked all chests, and upgraded all weapons and magic. but it is a good game. so i will buy the umd, so i could still play it without the need of consuming my memory stick's space.
and to tinjastin, yea, i can't blame him if he loves piracy. not everyone can afford to buy all the games that they want. besides, those guys (the one who makes games) are already rich as hell. hmm...
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Re: the Calamity - 2008-03-11 |
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» i agree
if they want to charge 50 dollars for a 10 hour game then the y deserve to be DL'd
if they want to charge 50 dollars for a 10 hour game then the y deserve to be DL'd
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by prime - 2008-03-10 |
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» Dreamcast portable? =(
It's sad really, the PSP is the first system other than the Dreamcast that requires no physical modifications to fully pirate (ok, xbox softmod, but even that is a bit more in-depth than a simple firmware flash).
Well we all know how unfortunately rapid the Dreamcast's demise was once the games hit the net. A great system that died well before its time. I sincerely hope the same doesn't hold true for the PSP. The game devs put a LOT of time, money, & effort into making these wonderful games, and it can't be encouraging for them to see their work widely distributed online illicitly..
The problem is, you can't force the genie back in the bottle. Nothing Sony does with firmware updates seems to do anything.. With the PS3 the only system on the market that is thus far piracy resistant, at least Sony is finally figuring out some way to keep the ISO kiddies at bay.
Anyways, I'm surprised QJ posted this article. Anything that draws attention to this issue runs the risk of spreading the problem further. Having shopped in many a PSP section at various retailers, I can surmise that the general masses are oblivious to the dark side (a very GOOD thing).
To all PSP fans, support our PSP game devs and buy what you so enjoy! Don't let the PSP suffer the same fate as the Dreamcast..
It's sad really, the PSP is the first system other than the Dreamcast that requires no physical modifications to fully pirate (ok, xbox softmod, but even that is a bit more in-depth than a simple firmware flash).
Well we all know how unfortunately rapid the Dreamcast's demise was once the games hit the net. A great system that died well before its time. I sincerely hope the same doesn't hold true for the PSP. The game devs put a LOT of time, money, & effort into making these wonderful games, and it can't be encouraging for them to see their work widely distributed online illicitly..
The problem is, you can't force the genie back in the bottle. Nothing Sony does with firmware updates seems to do anything.. With the PS3 the only system on the market that is thus far piracy resistant, at least Sony is finally figuring out some way to keep the ISO kiddies at bay.
Anyways, I'm surprised QJ posted this article. Anything that draws attention to this issue runs the risk of spreading the problem further. Having shopped in many a PSP section at various retailers, I can surmise that the general masses are oblivious to the dark side (a very GOOD thing).
To all PSP fans, support our PSP game devs and buy what you so enjoy! Don't let the PSP suffer the same fate as the Dreamcast..
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Re: sektor666 - 2008-03-10 |
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» wonderful?
name ONE 'wonderful' game for the psp, other than mhf
name ONE 'wonderful' game for the psp, other than mhf
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Re: Acteon - 2008-03-10 |
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» Wonderful games?
Gundam SEED: Omni vs ZAFT
Ace Combat
Tekken
Locoroco
R+C
Ridge Racers
Wipeout Pure
It's a matter of taste, certainly, but I get tired of people whinging about a "lack of good games on the PSP". It's garbage.
Gundam SEED: Omni vs ZAFT
Ace Combat
Tekken
Locoroco
R+C
Ridge Racers
Wipeout Pure
It's a matter of taste, certainly, but I get tired of people whinging about a "lack of good games on the PSP". It's garbage.
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Re: xche78x - 2008-03-11 |
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» i personally think
people that asks what are great games on your system and brags that his console of choice has better greater games are stupid morons that are just being their regular troll self.
it should be clear to everybody that almost all gaming systems fail or success has its own fair share of great titles depending on the person asked.
if you ask me, the nintendo virtual boy has great wonderful games, but i know trollers will disagree and bash my statement without even knowing my reason.
heck lot of us will think those old atari games are stupid dots and squares yet a generation of game players will disagree because they enjoyed playing those square and dots during those times and liven up their childhood days.
and about the rampant piracy, yes boost in pirated games also equals boost on console sales so people can play the pirated games.
software piracy was very very hard way back cartridge days because pirated games also cost almost the same as the original ones. but the when cd based games appear, all hell/heaven breaks loose. poor people can now save up for a console and pirate games (or in most case buy a burnt copy for only 2-5 percent of the original price), third world countries are now also playing what those high class countries are already experiencing. and even high class players now download stuff. in asia there is now an alternative to pirating and it is somehow working, free software of mmorpg but prepaid monthly subscription based. take for example ragnarok online which is still strong even if it is dated.
the previous last 2 console gens are filled with piracy and of course the current gen are also experiencing the same (not yet for ps3). but did you ever wonder, if piracy hurts the industry, why is the ps1 and ps2 called a MULTI BILLION DOLLAR SUCCESS?
VCD + DVD piracy? i think its the same case above!
and i know everybody is waiting for the ps3 to be pirate able (custom firmware that loads burned disc copies , disc images or modchips), by that time comes we will see rapid growth in ps3 console hardware sales and yet still some growth on the software sales.
people that asks what are great games on your system and brags that his console of choice has better greater games are stupid morons that are just being their regular troll self.
it should be clear to everybody that almost all gaming systems fail or success has its own fair share of great titles depending on the person asked.
if you ask me, the nintendo virtual boy has great wonderful games, but i know trollers will disagree and bash my statement without even knowing my reason.
heck lot of us will think those old atari games are stupid dots and squares yet a generation of game players will disagree because they enjoyed playing those square and dots during those times and liven up their childhood days.
and about the rampant piracy, yes boost in pirated games also equals boost on console sales so people can play the pirated games.
software piracy was very very hard way back cartridge days because pirated games also cost almost the same as the original ones. but the when cd based games appear, all hell/heaven breaks loose. poor people can now save up for a console and pirate games (or in most case buy a burnt copy for only 2-5 percent of the original price), third world countries are now also playing what those high class countries are already experiencing. and even high class players now download stuff. in asia there is now an alternative to pirating and it is somehow working, free software of mmorpg but prepaid monthly subscription based. take for example ragnarok online which is still strong even if it is dated.
the previous last 2 console gens are filled with piracy and of course the current gen are also experiencing the same (not yet for ps3). but did you ever wonder, if piracy hurts the industry, why is the ps1 and ps2 called a MULTI BILLION DOLLAR SUCCESS?
VCD + DVD piracy? i think its the same case above!
and i know everybody is waiting for the ps3 to be pirate able (custom firmware that loads burned disc copies , disc images or modchips), by that time comes we will see rapid growth in ps3 console hardware sales and yet still some growth on the software sales.
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Re: NakedFaerie - 2008-03-11 |
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» ps3 piracey?
I read your comment xche78x and thought thats exactly what I'm doing, waiting for the PS3 to be hacked to play ISO/backups then I will get one. When it finally happens $ony wont know what hit them as the sales will go through the roof. The only reason I got a 360 which I now regret is coz it plays backups. I think the 360 is the worst console out there as its so unstable and M$ ban it. If $ony never ban PS3's and a hack is found soon they will have the winning machine. The only reason the 360 is winning atm is coz of the backup playing..... I think the winning console is the PS2 but the nextgen console is the 360 with the Wii racing up and the PS3 lagging behind waiting for the hack then it'll overtake all.
I read your comment xche78x and thought thats exactly what I'm doing, waiting for the PS3 to be hacked to play ISO/backups then I will get one. When it finally happens $ony wont know what hit them as the sales will go through the roof. The only reason I got a 360 which I now regret is coz it plays backups. I think the 360 is the worst console out there as its so unstable and M$ ban it. If $ony never ban PS3's and a hack is found soon they will have the winning machine. The only reason the 360 is winning atm is coz of the backup playing..... I think the winning console is the PS2 but the nextgen console is the 360 with the Wii racing up and the PS3 lagging behind waiting for the hack then it'll overtake all.
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by muffinhead - 2008-03-10 |
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» Well, aint much im gonna comment on about piracy.
But, the dog in the photo is the best.
Nice cap and matching eyepatch ensemble!
But, the dog in the photo is the best.
Nice cap and matching eyepatch ensemble!
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Re: Jay P. (QJ. NET Staff) - 2008-03-10 |
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» thanks!
when i saw it, i instantly knew it was a keeper :)
when i saw it, i instantly knew it was a keeper :)
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Re: xche78x - 2008-03-11 |
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» dude
this article can also be called
"PSP's Greatest Games List"
just add em GTA's, they are not pirated because the original UMD was used to load program unto the psp.
this article can also be called
"PSP's Greatest Games List"
just add em GTA's, they are not pirated because the original UMD was used to load program unto the psp.
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by Torch - 2008-03-10 |
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» ..
People who dont buy original will never buy orignal. If it wasnt for piracy, they would by the PSP itself.
Loss = 0
Profit = Hardware sales.
Thats a fact, no matter what companies say.
People who dont buy original will never buy orignal. If it wasnt for piracy, they would by the PSP itself.
Loss = 0
Profit = Hardware sales.
Thats a fact, no matter what companies say.
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Re: bloody0986 - 2008-03-10 |
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» Pfft.
I have bought most of my games that I have pirated. Not all people are the same. Many people like you are judge so very quickly. Its like if you see someone you automatically say hes a cheater or hacker or whatever. Many people really try to buy the games they pirate. Sometimes they might be poor after buying that $400 Xbox 360 or $400 or something PS3 or even both the PSP and PSP SLIM. Some like roddollente use those pirated games to choose a game they want. So for roddollente and the others like him, its like a extended, better, easier demo.
P.S. Sorry for pulling you into this roddollente, just trying to make a point.
Anyway those game companies are filthy rich. They make so much money out of the other ways they can. Example: You get a $400 Xbox 360 and want it wireless. Well, guess what, the wireless thing you buy to make your Xbox 360 wifi is $100. You can get much, much better ones for your PC or MAC for much cheaper, but it doesn't work with the Xbox 360. Plus games also cost $50-$60 now. Probably in the future they will cost not an arm and leg, but both that and your other ones.
I have bought most of my games that I have pirated. Not all people are the same. Many people like you are judge so very quickly. Its like if you see someone you automatically say hes a cheater or hacker or whatever. Many people really try to buy the games they pirate. Sometimes they might be poor after buying that $400 Xbox 360 or $400 or something PS3 or even both the PSP and PSP SLIM. Some like roddollente use those pirated games to choose a game they want. So for roddollente and the others like him, its like a extended, better, easier demo.
P.S. Sorry for pulling you into this roddollente, just trying to make a point.
Anyway those game companies are filthy rich. They make so much money out of the other ways they can. Example: You get a $400 Xbox 360 and want it wireless. Well, guess what, the wireless thing you buy to make your Xbox 360 wifi is $100. You can get much, much better ones for your PC or MAC for much cheaper, but it doesn't work with the Xbox 360. Plus games also cost $50-$60 now. Probably in the future they will cost not an arm and leg, but both that and your other ones.
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by Silver-Tiger - 2008-03-10 |
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» ...
"So you see, there's a negative relationship between the two: one goes down, but the other goes up. Technically, these two should go hand-in-hand when rising in sales. But in reality, it's not really happening."
duhh, it's totally stupid to think so. What brings high console sale rates if you don't have any games for it?
"So you see, there's a negative relationship between the two: one goes down, but the other goes up. Technically, these two should go hand-in-hand when rising in sales. But in reality, it's not really happening."
duhh, it's totally stupid to think so. What brings high console sale rates if you don't have any games for it?
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by liddokun - 2008-03-10 |
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» patapon price
Patapon is the perfect example of WHY there is so much piracy. On european online shops, it ranges from 30 euro to 50. Normally it should be 45. Also i'm sure that the anything-but-cheap videogame shop 'round the corner will have it for 55 euro -_-'
Dunno about you, but even with a conversion 1:1 it wouldn't be such a great deal...
Patapon is the perfect example of WHY there is so much piracy. On european online shops, it ranges from 30 euro to 50. Normally it should be 45. Also i'm sure that the anything-but-cheap videogame shop 'round the corner will have it for 55 euro -_-'
Dunno about you, but even with a conversion 1:1 it wouldn't be such a great deal...
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by muffinhead - 2008-03-10 |
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» @SilverTiger
"duhh, it's totally stupid to think so. What brings high console sale rates if you don't have any games for it?"
-Silvertiger
There is a slight fallacy in your point. Don't forget the VERY important factor that the PSP has the highest emulation compatibility rate of ANY handheld ever created to date. Bearing this in mind, if no more software developers were to ever do another thing for the psp(God forbid!), the CFW PSP will still be a handheld with a library of well over 5000+ games when you include the entire collections of these systems:
1. PSP
2. PSX
3. GBA
4. NES
5. SNES
6. GENESIS
7. SCUMM
8. GBC
9. NEO-GEO CD
10. NEO GEO POCKET
11. AMIGA
12. ATARI 2600
13. COLECOVISION
14. GAME GEAR
15. SEGA MASTER SYSTEM
And, others which just elude me because i personally dont use them. And, keep in mind that this does NOT include applications like; Bookr, Irshell, etc.
The psp is a very complete handheld solution for gaming and multimedia on the go. Especially so with custom firmware.
"duhh, it's totally stupid to think so. What brings high console sale rates if you don't have any games for it?"
-Silvertiger
There is a slight fallacy in your point. Don't forget the VERY important factor that the PSP has the highest emulation compatibility rate of ANY handheld ever created to date. Bearing this in mind, if no more software developers were to ever do another thing for the psp(God forbid!), the CFW PSP will still be a handheld with a library of well over 5000+ games when you include the entire collections of these systems:
1. PSP
2. PSX
3. GBA
4. NES
5. SNES
6. GENESIS
7. SCUMM
8. GBC
9. NEO-GEO CD
10. NEO GEO POCKET
11. AMIGA
12. ATARI 2600
13. COLECOVISION
14. GAME GEAR
15. SEGA MASTER SYSTEM
And, others which just elude me because i personally dont use them. And, keep in mind that this does NOT include applications like; Bookr, Irshell, etc.
The psp is a very complete handheld solution for gaming and multimedia on the go. Especially so with custom firmware.
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Re: stories - 2008-03-10 |
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» However...
None of these systems are having any new software developed for it. What drives new hardware sales is the creation of new software for it. Without new software, the company that creates the hardware will simply stagnate leading to less innovation on both sides. I think we all can agree that's not a good thing.
This is directed more at everyone here talking about the "software companies are already rich" argument. While the company itself is rich, the developers themselves are not. This is the developer's livelihood. How many people make a game now? There are like 100 people on the staff at any one time and this is what their living is. Those guys aren't rich--they need the support of purchasers to keep the larger companies to publish their games. Without the wide distribution channels the big publisher provides, we'd never see the light of day for these games. No matter how you look at it, piracy is NOT a good thing for these developers, no matter how you cut it.
I have to think, of the 250,000 people that have downloaded MGS, at least a handful of them would have bought it had they not had the opportunity to download it. I'll bet that the number of people that buy it after pirating it is minuscule in comparison to the number that won't buy it anymore because they pirated it.
None of these systems are having any new software developed for it. What drives new hardware sales is the creation of new software for it. Without new software, the company that creates the hardware will simply stagnate leading to less innovation on both sides. I think we all can agree that's not a good thing.
This is directed more at everyone here talking about the "software companies are already rich" argument. While the company itself is rich, the developers themselves are not. This is the developer's livelihood. How many people make a game now? There are like 100 people on the staff at any one time and this is what their living is. Those guys aren't rich--they need the support of purchasers to keep the larger companies to publish their games. Without the wide distribution channels the big publisher provides, we'd never see the light of day for these games. No matter how you look at it, piracy is NOT a good thing for these developers, no matter how you cut it.
I have to think, of the 250,000 people that have downloaded MGS, at least a handful of them would have bought it had they not had the opportunity to download it. I'll bet that the number of people that buy it after pirating it is minuscule in comparison to the number that won't buy it anymore because they pirated it.
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Re: 73N5H1 - 2008-03-10 |
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» change
Its called CHANGE... technology changes things... I don't hear people whining about all the assemblyline workers that don't have jobs now since automobile manufacturers started using automated machines. You either embrace change or you get left behind...
Its called CHANGE... technology changes things... I don't hear people whining about all the assemblyline workers that don't have jobs now since automobile manufacturers started using automated machines. You either embrace change or you get left behind...
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by 73N5H1 - 2008-03-10 |
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» Propaganda
why don't we just be honest about it... people pirate because life is hard and every bit of money you can save helps and because its easy... why go out and pay for something when its readily accessible with virtually no risk involved? Why go buy an album for a single song when you can spend 20 seconds double clicking and have it? To be honest, I generally look at people who DON'T pirate as mindless sheep that are afraid to take a (perceived) risk. And I really want to laugh at this line "If you ask this writer, the numbers indicated above are ridiculously high" ARE YOU SERIOUS? that's numbers for EVERYONE that has downloaded these torrents from that particular website. So 94,000 out of the 6.7 BILLION people in the world downloaded God of War from this site.... for people who can't add that up, that's less than .001% of the worlds population, even if we assume that only people in the US are downloading, that is still less than .03% of the entire population of the U.S. Hell, its not even enough to account for 1/5 of the population of Wyoming, the state with the smallest population in the U.S... yeah, you're right.... that's a HUGE number.
why don't we just be honest about it... people pirate because life is hard and every bit of money you can save helps and because its easy... why go out and pay for something when its readily accessible with virtually no risk involved? Why go buy an album for a single song when you can spend 20 seconds double clicking and have it? To be honest, I generally look at people who DON'T pirate as mindless sheep that are afraid to take a (perceived) risk. And I really want to laugh at this line "If you ask this writer, the numbers indicated above are ridiculously high" ARE YOU SERIOUS? that's numbers for EVERYONE that has downloaded these torrents from that particular website. So 94,000 out of the 6.7 BILLION people in the world downloaded God of War from this site.... for people who can't add that up, that's less than .001% of the worlds population, even if we assume that only people in the US are downloading, that is still less than .03% of the entire population of the U.S. Hell, its not even enough to account for 1/5 of the population of Wyoming, the state with the smallest population in the U.S... yeah, you're right.... that's a HUGE number.
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Re: sickofitall - 2008-03-10 |
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» well you make a good point,
but there are not 6.7 billion psps cold, so that number is irrelevant. You instead should consider how many of those have downloaded out of the ~25 million psps sold, still a small number though, figuratively.
but there are not 6.7 billion psps cold, so that number is irrelevant. You instead should consider how many of those have downloaded out of the ~25 million psps sold, still a small number though, figuratively.
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Re: Chrisp6825 - 2008-03-12 |
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» still...
out of the ~25 million psp sold... thats still .3% that pirated GOW from that site...
could be a small number, depending on whether or not its the same at other torrent websites...
out of the ~25 million psp sold... thats still .3% that pirated GOW from that site...
could be a small number, depending on whether or not its the same at other torrent websites...
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Re: Popson - 2008-03-16 |
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» propaganda my ass
Or you could look at it another way. That's 94,000 x $40.00 (almost $4 million) that should be going to the develeoper. Granted not all of the people who downloaded it would actually buy the game if piracy wasn't an option, i guarantee a good percentage of them would have.
Your logic actually disgusts me. Comparing 94,000 to the WORLD POPULATION shows how ignorant you are. The numbers ARE ridiculously high. The game has been out for 2 weeks?
I'm not going to lie, on a boring night i'll download a game just for fun, but it's rather disgusting at heart.
I bought GoW.. why? why would i buy a game i could just as easily steal? Someone has to buy there games, and i honestly want to support a developer when they clearly made a quality product.
If the ps3 gets hacked, yes, temptation will probably cause me to try a game or two, but i REALLY hope it doesn't get hacked.
Or you could look at it another way. That's 94,000 x $40.00 (almost $4 million) that should be going to the develeoper. Granted not all of the people who downloaded it would actually buy the game if piracy wasn't an option, i guarantee a good percentage of them would have.
Your logic actually disgusts me. Comparing 94,000 to the WORLD POPULATION shows how ignorant you are. The numbers ARE ridiculously high. The game has been out for 2 weeks?
I'm not going to lie, on a boring night i'll download a game just for fun, but it's rather disgusting at heart.
I bought GoW.. why? why would i buy a game i could just as easily steal? Someone has to buy there games, and i honestly want to support a developer when they clearly made a quality product.
If the ps3 gets hacked, yes, temptation will probably cause me to try a game or two, but i REALLY hope it doesn't get hacked.
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by que - 2008-03-10 |
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» Game Pricing
Honestly, if handheld games were properly priced -- piracy wouldn't have such a dramatic effect on the PSP. Spending on a handheld game (even a console game) is pretty steep.
Games for portable devices should range from - tops.
Honestly, if handheld games were properly priced -- piracy wouldn't have such a dramatic effect on the PSP. Spending on a handheld game (even a console game) is pretty steep.
Games for portable devices should range from - tops.
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Re: que - 2008-03-10 |
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» Game Pricing
Now why would pspupdates block dollar signs? let me re-port that last sentence...
"Games for portable devices should range from TWENTY to THIRTY FIVE DOLLARS - tops"
Now why would pspupdates block dollar signs? let me re-port that last sentence...
"Games for portable devices should range from TWENTY to THIRTY FIVE DOLLARS - tops"
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by Aphex85 - 2008-03-10 |
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» Hmmmmmm
I do download iso's but only to see if there any good, if i like it i will buy it as i want to show my support for this console.
I don't want to spent Ģ25 ($50) on a game when it turns out to be S**t as hell, plus it is faster to load a game on iso than the umd.
A person should really only have the iso if:
1)they already have the game on umd
2)if they a seeing if the game is worth buying (should delete the game after.
It's a shame to see so many people are downloading pirate games, but this will always happen, nomatter what game or console it is.
I do download iso's but only to see if there any good, if i like it i will buy it as i want to show my support for this console.
I don't want to spent Ģ25 ($50) on a game when it turns out to be S**t as hell, plus it is faster to load a game on iso than the umd.
A person should really only have the iso if:
1)they already have the game on umd
2)if they a seeing if the game is worth buying (should delete the game after.
It's a shame to see so many people are downloading pirate games, but this will always happen, nomatter what game or console it is.
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by treyjazz - 2008-03-10 |
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» @prime
Actually the DC wasn't the first 'open' system to piracy. There were a few systems before the DC that would run burnt games unmodified -- Sega CD/32x CD, PC Engine CD/Super CD, 3do. And then there are the cartridge based systems that could run games unmodified but required a proprietary format of cartridge. And actually the DC did have protection but it was in the form of a proprietary media -- the GDROM. But an exploit was found and games were ripped over a serial connection to a PC. Sega invested all their time and money into the proprietary format but didn't have the foresight to implement a disk validity check. Doh!
Actually the DC wasn't the first 'open' system to piracy. There were a few systems before the DC that would run burnt games unmodified -- Sega CD/32x CD, PC Engine CD/Super CD, 3do. And then there are the cartridge based systems that could run games unmodified but required a proprietary format of cartridge. And actually the DC did have protection but it was in the form of a proprietary media -- the GDROM. But an exploit was found and games were ripped over a serial connection to a PC. Sega invested all their time and money into the proprietary format but didn't have the foresight to implement a disk validity check. Doh!
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Re: The Uncreated - 2008-03-10 |
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» ..
I used to pirate SNES games using my UFO64 ROM downloading unit. That was ages ago! Stick the cartridge in the top and a floppy disc in the side of the unit and BAM -- you'll have a dumped ROM in five minutes.
Uncreated
I used to pirate SNES games using my UFO64 ROM downloading unit. That was ages ago! Stick the cartridge in the top and a floppy disc in the side of the unit and BAM -- you'll have a dumped ROM in five minutes.
Uncreated
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Re: prime - 2008-03-10 |
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» true but
Sega CD/32x CD, PC Engine CD/Super CD, 3do, were released long before CD burners were cheap as nuts and available everywhere. They didn't have to worry about piracy because in all but the 3DO, CD burners weren't even invented yet.
A disk validity check is the easiest for modders to crack - PS1, PS2, Xbox, GC, Wii, 360 all have been broken in that dept. Proprietary format is usually the strongest (PS3 w/blu-ray for example).
The cartridge backup units for SNES were also nearly impossible for most to know about, let alone find for sale before the days of the internet. Admittedly, I would have bought one myself had I known where to get one.
Sega CD/32x CD, PC Engine CD/Super CD, 3do, were released long before CD burners were cheap as nuts and available everywhere. They didn't have to worry about piracy because in all but the 3DO, CD burners weren't even invented yet.
A disk validity check is the easiest for modders to crack - PS1, PS2, Xbox, GC, Wii, 360 all have been broken in that dept. Proprietary format is usually the strongest (PS3 w/blu-ray for example).
The cartridge backup units for SNES were also nearly impossible for most to know about, let alone find for sale before the days of the internet. Admittedly, I would have bought one myself had I known where to get one.
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by Stewies - 2008-03-10 |
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» & Brian
Indeed, I am also an isoloader for the psp simply because
1. Nintendo FTW!
2. Homebrew scene roxor Sony!
3. Victory is mine!
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Expecting the oncoming negative comments, I believe with 73N5H1 that "people pirate because life is hard and every bit of money you can save helps". Also I don't see PSP resting in peace like DreamCast.
Indeed, I am also an isoloader for the psp simply because
1. Nintendo FTW!
2. Homebrew scene roxor Sony!
3. Victory is mine!
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Expecting the oncoming negative comments, I believe with 73N5H1 that "people pirate because life is hard and every bit of money you can save helps". Also I don't see PSP resting in peace like DreamCast.
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Re: TheLastGuitarHero - 2008-03-10 |
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» ...
"I pirate Sony 'cause I like Nintendo." ...Haha, kind of retarded but whatever floats your boat.
"I pirate Sony 'cause I like Nintendo." ...Haha, kind of retarded but whatever floats your boat.
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by Bense - 2008-03-10 |
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» not only is it the cost.
I have bought UMDs and the first thing I did was dump them to the memory stick.
Not only is it free, but we all know that games on the memory stick
1. give us faster load times. I tried to run MPO+ off of the UMD and I couldn't believe how much slower it was just with the UMD.
2. Use less battery power
3. Are quieter. Sometimes I find myself stuck in the library between classes. I don't want the loud UMD drive whining when everyone else is studying. Not that I really need to be playing my PSP in the library, but sometimes after studying for a few hours I like to take a short break of GTA LCS before class.
4. you can carry several games on a 4gb mem stick.
5. Piracy is free.
6. Games are available sooner on torrents.
Every time I buy a UMD, it sits on my shelf and is utilized on my memory stick. Sony should really start releasing games using the PS store.
I have bought UMDs and the first thing I did was dump them to the memory stick.
Not only is it free, but we all know that games on the memory stick
1. give us faster load times. I tried to run MPO+ off of the UMD and I couldn't believe how much slower it was just with the UMD.
2. Use less battery power
3. Are quieter. Sometimes I find myself stuck in the library between classes. I don't want the loud UMD drive whining when everyone else is studying. Not that I really need to be playing my PSP in the library, but sometimes after studying for a few hours I like to take a short break of GTA LCS before class.
4. you can carry several games on a 4gb mem stick.
5. Piracy is free.
6. Games are available sooner on torrents.
Every time I buy a UMD, it sits on my shelf and is utilized on my memory stick. Sony should really start releasing games using the PS store.
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by Binary - 2008-03-10 |
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» .
but remember you hurting the company but who cares, I pirated too and If I really like the game, I delete the file and go buy it at wal-mart to support the company.
but remember you hurting the company but who cares, I pirated too and If I really like the game, I delete the file and go buy it at wal-mart to support the company.
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by jmendes - 2008-03-10 |
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» ...
Wow, lotīs of dumbass opinions on this subject...
They should post game sales numbers now.
Wow, lotīs of dumbass opinions on this subject...
They should post game sales numbers now.
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by Jtcp - 2008-03-10 |
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» It doesnt really matter...Open letter to SOny??
Here's the deal.
All that the industry is concerned with is with the numbers of brand new retail copies of each game sold....aka GREED.
So lets say for example that if it wasnt piracy that was the problem and it was 30% or greater of sales numbers representing the purchase of used games versus new, then the industry would be *****ing about that because the publisher and maker of the games dont see a dime from the sale of preplayed games.
My point being, is that the industry is always going to find something to ***** about because its purpose is based on greed, plain and simple. If it wasn't, why do I have be raped with a 40 or 50 dollar price tag on most new psp games?
Firstly, The industry must come to a compromise with its consumers if it wishes to turn any of those piracy numbers into new retail sales numbers, starting with setting the price for games at a reasonable and logical dollar amount that doesn't gouge the consumer but still allows the makers to turn a decent profit.
Secondly, The industry needs to allow us to purchase the games through new mediums such as an official game website, that should play a huge part in lowering the cost in the game itself because you're not paying for packaging, pressing and printing of the game and its manuals and cases that they come with and your eliminating the middle man (bestbuy, circuit city) from the equation which should further cut the cost of the product.
Plus its way more convenient for the customer to be able to browse for titles to buy from his or her computer. (It would also be easier for the publisher to track the sales of their titles this way as well) You could even have a program that accompanies this process, kinda like buying music from itunes. It would keep track of all your purchases, assist you in the process of transferring your games to your memory stick (like transferring songs from itunes to your ipod) you could make a back up hard copy and just give it the same security or DRM that apple adds to its music library and I think you have a winning combination for the consumers and the industry.
Prices go down, buying convenience goes up, sales go up
and everyones stays happy, done like dinner.
Thirdly and lastly, Quit being so damn self-serving and slow moving!! You say that Sony listens to their customers and especially the PSP community and we all know that that is a load of crap because if you did, your firmware updates would concentrate more on adding new optional add on features then keeping me from running unassigned code. When I bought my PSP i thought wow, it'd be really cool if the PSP had internet radio, a brower that could support youtube and other online video sites (netflix, funny or die.com etc....) , maybe some sort of pda functionality as well and a service to allow me to play retro classics as well from nes, snes, n64, sega genesis, psone and the arcade classic that we all remember etc ...etc... because all major consoles allow you to do that.
Well in my journies Ive found that all of these things can be done and have been thanks to the PSP hacking/modding community (and hats off to everyone of them). And shame on you Sony. you just finally added internet radio, what the hell is the hold up? Contract the people who developed the other homebrew apps to make them for you as an official part of the additional add ons that you could make available for your customers via firmware upgrades. As far as offering classic retro titles and what not, talk to the Big N and Sega, work out a FAIR licensing deal that works for your customers and yourself and make it happen.
If the point in creating the PSP was to sell a ton of units then we (your customers) see you doing very little in the way of enticing us and your non-customers to make that happen. The point is Sony, we see lots of potential in your PSP and you doing very little to reach its full potential.
Thats why you have such a huge hacking/modding/homebrew community. Because we have decided that if you wont give us what we want, then we will.
Its time you ste
Here's the deal.
All that the industry is concerned with is with the numbers of brand new retail copies of each game sold....aka GREED.
So lets say for example that if it wasnt piracy that was the problem and it was 30% or greater of sales numbers representing the purchase of used games versus new, then the industry would be *****ing about that because the publisher and maker of the games dont see a dime from the sale of preplayed games.
My point being, is that the industry is always going to find something to ***** about because its purpose is based on greed, plain and simple. If it wasn't, why do I have be raped with a 40 or 50 dollar price tag on most new psp games?
Firstly, The industry must come to a compromise with its consumers if it wishes to turn any of those piracy numbers into new retail sales numbers, starting with setting the price for games at a reasonable and logical dollar amount that doesn't gouge the consumer but still allows the makers to turn a decent profit.
Secondly, The industry needs to allow us to purchase the games through new mediums such as an official game website, that should play a huge part in lowering the cost in the game itself because you're not paying for packaging, pressing and printing of the game and its manuals and cases that they come with and your eliminating the middle man (bestbuy, circuit city) from the equation which should further cut the cost of the product.
Plus its way more convenient for the customer to be able to browse for titles to buy from his or her computer. (It would also be easier for the publisher to track the sales of their titles this way as well) You could even have a program that accompanies this process, kinda like buying music from itunes. It would keep track of all your purchases, assist you in the process of transferring your games to your memory stick (like transferring songs from itunes to your ipod) you could make a back up hard copy and just give it the same security or DRM that apple adds to its music library and I think you have a winning combination for the consumers and the industry.
Prices go down, buying convenience goes up, sales go up
and everyones stays happy, done like dinner.
Thirdly and lastly, Quit being so damn self-serving and slow moving!! You say that Sony listens to their customers and especially the PSP community and we all know that that is a load of crap because if you did, your firmware updates would concentrate more on adding new optional add on features then keeping me from running unassigned code. When I bought my PSP i thought wow, it'd be really cool if the PSP had internet radio, a brower that could support youtube and other online video sites (netflix, funny or die.com etc....) , maybe some sort of pda functionality as well and a service to allow me to play retro classics as well from nes, snes, n64, sega genesis, psone and the arcade classic that we all remember etc ...etc... because all major consoles allow you to do that.
Well in my journies Ive found that all of these things can be done and have been thanks to the PSP hacking/modding community (and hats off to everyone of them). And shame on you Sony. you just finally added internet radio, what the hell is the hold up? Contract the people who developed the other homebrew apps to make them for you as an official part of the additional add ons that you could make available for your customers via firmware upgrades. As far as offering classic retro titles and what not, talk to the Big N and Sega, work out a FAIR licensing deal that works for your customers and yourself and make it happen.
If the point in creating the PSP was to sell a ton of units then we (your customers) see you doing very little in the way of enticing us and your non-customers to make that happen. The point is Sony, we see lots of potential in your PSP and you doing very little to reach its full potential.
Thats why you have such a huge hacking/modding/homebrew community. Because we have decided that if you wont give us what we want, then we will.
Its time you ste
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by Jtcp - 2008-03-10 |
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» Continued.....
Its time you stepped up as a company and really took the reigns on this and started making the PSP the best it can be for us. Give us a free additional optional addons in our firmware updates such as a PDA app, a brower that supports the newest version of flash or some other way to view youtube and other video sites online, give us a screen shot app, instant messaging app ..etc...etc...
Give us a fair and inexpensive way to play the classics on our psp and dont rip us off selling us an nes game for 5 dollars when i can get it for 1 or less, and for crying out loud unlock the full screen resolution on the psp for watching videos/movies!!!
The hackers/modders/homebrew community have already paved the way for you, all you need to do is pay attention and get on board. You think these people are your enemies...Dark Alex, Zx-81..etc.. when these people and many more are the PSP's clear salvation. Put them to work for you!! Turn them into your friends.
In summation Sony, copy the apple business model for itunes/ipod and dont get greedy in the process. Give the people what they want today!! Here and now!! And maybe give them what they didn't know they wanted. INNOVATE!!! At this point you've really got nothing to lose and everything to gain, take a chance.
Not only will your game sales go up 10 fold, but you'll also see a great increase in hardware sales as well. Isn't that why you're here in the first place?
Its time you stepped up as a company and really took the reigns on this and started making the PSP the best it can be for us. Give us a free additional optional addons in our firmware updates such as a PDA app, a brower that supports the newest version of flash or some other way to view youtube and other video sites online, give us a screen shot app, instant messaging app ..etc...etc...
Give us a fair and inexpensive way to play the classics on our psp and dont rip us off selling us an nes game for 5 dollars when i can get it for 1 or less, and for crying out loud unlock the full screen resolution on the psp for watching videos/movies!!!
The hackers/modders/homebrew community have already paved the way for you, all you need to do is pay attention and get on board. You think these people are your enemies...Dark Alex, Zx-81..etc.. when these people and many more are the PSP's clear salvation. Put them to work for you!! Turn them into your friends.
In summation Sony, copy the apple business model for itunes/ipod and dont get greedy in the process. Give the people what they want today!! Here and now!! And maybe give them what they didn't know they wanted. INNOVATE!!! At this point you've really got nothing to lose and everything to gain, take a chance.
Not only will your game sales go up 10 fold, but you'll also see a great increase in hardware sales as well. Isn't that why you're here in the first place?
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Re: bloody0986 - 2008-03-10 |
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» WOW.
Just WOW. Very moving and impressive speech. Kinda sounds like those Wendy's commercials. You know? Where they say "Hey! I want a fresh juicy burger and want it now." Then they run or do something differently than the others. Back to the topic, maybe we should petition or something. We'll probably lose though. I agree with you all the way. : )
Just WOW. Very moving and impressive speech. Kinda sounds like those Wendy's commercials. You know? Where they say "Hey! I want a fresh juicy burger and want it now." Then they run or do something differently than the others. Back to the topic, maybe we should petition or something. We'll probably lose though. I agree with you all the way. : )
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by Pwn3r1001 - 2008-03-10 |
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» on the rise?
lol they've been on the rise since iso loading has been available on the psp. i mean iguess there are more sites with them but it's been around for awhile...old news
lol they've been on the rise since iso loading has been available on the psp. i mean iguess there are more sites with them but it's been around for awhile...old news