Posted Mar 12, 2007 at 09:27AM by Ryan A. Listed in: Rumors Tags: Sony, GDC, Playstation Home
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Here's the thing: gaming site Kotaku was blacklisted for a while by Sony for spilling the proverbial magic beans on the new PlayStation 3 (PS3) service, PlayStation Home. After all hoopla subsided, it turned out that the Kotaku rumor was correct and Sony re-invited them back to the previously scheduled meetings and interviews.

Now, how would you feel if we throw in a PSP2 rumor courtesy of the above-mentioned site? We know a lot of hushed talks have been surrounding this topic for some time now and Sony just watered down these speculations at the Game Developers Conference (GDC). But hey, it's Kotaku - the one who got blacklisted for being correct.

With all that said, the gaming site is now reporting that various "third party and highly placed sources" confirmed that there is indeed a PSP2 currently in the works, and it's possible that it will be out during the fourth quarter of 2007. The sources added that the big announcement will happen at this year's Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) and the new features to be presented are the following:

  • PSP 2 could be out this year - Image 1The screen is gorgeous
  • The loads are faster
  • Improved buttons
  • Internal flash of 8GB
  • Possible touch-screen
  • Possible built-in camera
  • Uses UMD
What do you think, guys? Can it be possible that there's some truth to this like last time?


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   by p0Wer (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » Already?

PSP 2 already?

Wow!


   Re: sad gits (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » and back to the real world


calm down boys and girls,
you all know this will end up being one of two things..
1) just an updated psp - like the ds lite was to the ds - which would make a Q4 of 2007 launch about right

2) a psp2 - which wont come out at q4 of 2007 because they haven't had time to develope it yet

rumours like this always get made and suckers like QJ print/display them

heres some rumours for you

1) there will be a 3rd x box released toward the end of 2008 that is controlled via the mind

2)nintendo are working on a new console that is 4 times as powerful as wii (wow) but you control it with a body suit

3) holographic TV's will be released to the masses in summer 2011

4) sony have a psp2 and ps4 in development

all obvious stuff when you think about it

   Re: cube (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » true

^^ agree entirely...

   Re: pweebag (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » sad gits

you are gay.

and also, i thought we heard there was not going to be internal memory. wurd if there is.

   Re: seven (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » ...

Umm.. maybe im just retarded here, but i thought i heard that E3 was canceled for a couple years?

   Re: GuitarGod1134 (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » GOd damnit

Guys stop being so happy you know that them releasing a new console is bad for us right? Because then are psp's will be useless and sony will focus on the newer system which judging by the speculated features wont be cheap. So i say stop being happy if this is true then prepare to lose another large amount of money. I hope this isnt real.

   Re: Sooks (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » PSP2

Even if there is a psp2, I cant see how that would render our psp's useless. If the statements made are true then the game format remains UMD so u can still put games on ur memorystick, plus there might be even greater security on the new system and would take time to be hacked.

   Re: jeeze... (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » real world it is

it seems like all this speculation is more what you HOPE Sony will do rather than what you KNOW Sony will do. let us not forget what happened with FW 3.00 speculation (for those who have been around long enough). those altered pics of the FW back in the days of 2.0 and 1.5 looked nothing like it actually is right now. just b/c Kotaku was blacklisted for something correct once does not mean that every time after that it will be true again. as well, if Sony stated that they were not developing a PSP2, and they actually were, the company could be charged for corporate malpractice, and that would damage Sony's rep. keep dreaming all you want, but it really just seems like another hopeless rumor. and btw, if all that stuff were added, Sony would have to redesign the whole thing anyway.

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   Re: Lancia (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » Another useless try

Sony just trying to impress. they going to make the same mistake than the PSP1. What is lacking is not in the console but in the game. i can count good game on one hand.

   Re: David (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » No homebrew

Gee, I bet if sony will keep the same level of security for the psp2? Not.

   Re: Dodo - 2007-03-12
 » ..

Nintendo is working on Wowawiii, the next-next gen console that is twice as fast as Wii, includes a dvd player and fatures motion control with your *****!

   Re: Wicked Insider (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » False Hopes!

No truth to this at all. It's purely speculation and
linding to false hopes. Besides, what good would
a new version of PSP be without the second
anolog nub which isn't mentioned. I'll believe it
when I see it. SONY just shot down any hopes of
any kind of revamped version of the PSP and
now somebody says that a new version of the
PSP will be anounced in the second quarter of
the year. Give me a brake, this is poppyc o c k.
No such thing will ever happen, at least no
durring this year unless it is produced by a third
party source and not by SONY.

   Re: gg (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » gg

some one tell me how to play psp iso on my psp

   Re: gg (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » gg

oh ya my e-mail moneymaddness@hotmail.com

   Re: xche78x - 2007-03-13
 » me too

my name is dark brown alex,
teach me how to play ps2 games on my psp.

   Re: ryan (Unregistered) - 2007-03-21
 » ps2 games?

you cant play ps2 games on psp. god i hate when its me who has to state the obvious
   by Snarg (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » .

I could see it all being true except for the touchscreen part, unless it was XMB specific. They're not going to make a product that outdates the PSP 1.

And it's still not 100% clear if the 8Gb is Gigabits or Gigabytes, but my guess would be Gigabits ie. 1 Gigabyte.


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   Re: JJ (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » ..

It would have to be 8 Gigabytes, 8 Gigabits would be usless on the psp for downloaded games and movies.

I would be happy with the new features. Only one thing bothers me about psp1, ghosting. I see it int everything. The screen looks great, but ghosting is a *****.

Sony, please up the refresh rate of the screen and no dead pixels this time....... Add a second analog stick too.

   Re: coolguy5678 - 2007-03-12
 » Why gigabits?

There's no reason for the 8GB to be gigabits, GB is generally accepted as gigabytes and using gigabits there would just be weird (isn't gigabits with a small b anyway? - Gb not GB).

I hope there's no touch-screen, that would force me to buy the new one, like you said.

The lack of homebrew that is undoubtedly going to come with a redesign (at least until its hacked, which could be a while if you think of the TA-082) is also bad.

   Re: Snarg (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » .

Yes small b ++ bits, and large B + bytes, but every other PSP2/PSP-Lite rumor (inclucing the supposed mass purchase of 8Gb chips by Sony) aside from this one has used the small b, which is why it remains unclear.
At the time the mass purchase rumor was made, it actually did make sense for it to be 8Gb, since 4GB had just been released.

   Re: bzgamer (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » PSP 2 this year, No Way?

Hello!! If they could make a touch screen TV then they could implement touch screen on the PSP. You don't need dual screens to be touch screen. One is sufficient.

   Re: mreverdred01 - 2007-03-12
 » .

It would be cool if the touchscreen they're talking about replaced the buttons, so the entire surface of the PSP was a touchscreen. That would be an innovative new thing for gaming. Custom buttons come up on the screen for every game. Fingerprints might get annoying, though. I personally believe the DS did a terrible job with the touchscreen idea. On every game I've played on the DS, the touchscreen is optional to use instead of the buttons. You can't really use the buttons and the touch screen on the DS at the same time, either.

   Re: doodad (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » wow

it was just last week that my mom commented on how cool it would be for the psp to have a touch screen......finally a decent keyboard! web serving would be sweet and think of all of the ingeneus stuff that homebrew designers would think of! i would buy that even if its $350.......
   by Samuel007sam (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » mmmmmmmmm

Well I will start saving..lol


   Re: noooooooooo (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » cash

better be a fake, i do not want to spend another large amount of cash... If they do bring out the PSP2 im going pirate! :D
   by wtf!?!? (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » wtf?!?!

AND WHERES THE FEATURE FOR "BETTER GRAPHICS" ?!?!?! ***** OFF SONY.


   Re: rd261 (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » ...

Why would you want better graphics when the ds is not even close to psp graphics? I think the current graphics are fine for a portable. Besides that even if the graphics were much better, it wouldnt be that noticeable in a small screen

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   Re: D: :D (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » lol

Graphics whore! go get a PS3.

   Re: simewich (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » graphics

@rd261 what, you just want graphic that are slightly better then sonys competitors? and of couse you would notice better graphics on a small screen. better graphics + better games

   Re: saaasdafdf (Unregistered) - 2007-03-13
 » wtf!?!? is an

ass hole

   Re: hehehe (Unregistered) - 2007-03-21
 » graphics whore?

well, im an evilscarycomputergeek, and I've always hated it when people said this game is better than all the other games because of its "better graphics" I finally have a name to call them: graphics whores. .. LOL, thanks!

   Re: wtf!?!?hater (Unregistered) - 2007-03-25
 » You suck

You suck balls graphic arnt that important. Would you rather have a consol that only played games and had no other features like internet touch screen vids pics music and other cool stuff or have a consol with the same graphic and better features. i'd go with better features. moron. I can tell your a nintendo hater.
   by owfx (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » not true

no way its true if theyr saying it will be released in late 2007 because it hasnt even been confirmed and things are usually confirmed around two years before they are released, not six or eight months

   by callum (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » omg what a waste of money

omg thats not right atleast years man if this is true sony are cheap lil f*ckers making 2 portables less tahn 2 yeas differance


   Re: conzie (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » however...

i think u'll find nintendo did the same thing

   Re: Trinak (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » @ conzie

well the difference being that
DS + $150 launch
PSP + $250 launch

DS Lite + $150 launch (or $130)
PSP2 + probably $350~$400 launch

Also all games workin on DSL work on DS, but if the PSP2 has touch screen then all games working on PSP2 probably wont work on PSP
   by asdasd (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » asdas

there should be TV out too


   Re: yeah (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » thats true

that would be necessary feature for me to buy one... even if its poorly imaged...all digital cameras and most other devices have TV out

   Re: evilscarycomputergeek (Unregistered) - 2007-03-21
 » TV

I misread your post, but that gave me an idea: sony should incorporate a TV tuner into a psp. Sure, it would cost them an extra $15, but hey, who wouldn't mind paying an extra $20 or so to watch TV on the go? I mean, if cellphones can do it, then why not PSP. LOL, I remember when the PSP first came out, and all the rich kids had one, I had heard that it could play TV. When I won mine at a raffle, I was slightly disappointed that it didn't have any TV... The screen also looked a lot smaller once I actually saw it...
   by x.pain.x (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » haha!

homebrew! GONE.
descent flash player??
tbh i think (if this is true) that this is just another scheme to wipe homebrew and the occasional homo hacker away. there is no chance it will be homebrew compatible.. so i dont think ill own 1!!!!


   Re: yeah (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » ummm............... no

if they try to stop homebrew with this... they will fail.... the PSP2 will ba hacked in a matter of time once launched...like the PSP was

NOTHING IS PERFECT.... thus this can and will be hacked and made homebrewable/etc......

...dont be an IGNORANT noob...

   Re: PSPZorZ - 2007-03-12
 » g

At first the PSP came with homebrew ENABLED... This is why we can get PSP's so compatible... Sure the newer FWs that were hacked have SOME homebrew (wow, tiff homebrew pwns), but higher FWs can't run nearly as much as 1.50... what do you expect, to downgrade a FW 1.00 PSP2? The fact that we could run unsigned code in the beginning of PSP let us find out a lot about the FW of it from looking at it, which let us find out about later FWs and made it more easily hackable... it'll be nearly impossible to hack the first FW for PSP2 sony might make because we know nothing about it. Also, sony has learned it's lesson with PSP, and they will probably work extremely hard to prevent homebrew for v 1.00 so they can get it right the first time. I don't think there is any way to run ISOs on any FW other than 1.50 (correct me if I'm wrong) and ISOs are one of the main reasons why people like the PSP... they can have 3 or 4 games on one memory stick, without needing to carry around any discs... If we can't load ISOs on 1.51+, I'm very doubtfull we will be able to figure out how to run them on the PSP2's firmware, which is sure to crack down on homebrew a lot worst than the other FWs have.

   Re: Aces In The Palm - 2007-03-12
 » PSPZorZ

yeah
sony really learned their lesson with PSP
just ask paradox
have a look at the tiff exploit found for PS3
i agree with yeah
   by LiberatingConquest (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » 2 handhelds in the span of 2 years?

What gives? Are Sony planning on updating their handhelds as regular as Nintendo do with the Gameboys?

   by Machzy (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » Battery Life!

What the hell are they gonna do about battery life?! I mean 35 minutes is great on my PSP, but my DS has a way better battery.


   Re: Illegal Machine - 2007-03-12
 » 35 minutes???

My psp works for like 8 hrs

   Re: D: :D (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » Sarcasim

Sarcasim? Lol.(both of you.)
PSP hours: 2-3 hours(wifi-game)
game: 3 hours
music: 6-8 hours(screen off ...dunno)
Movie I've heard 1-2 hours O.o... other people... 4 hours.

   Re: ... (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » ...

I get about 6 hours or so of gaming time, so the eight hours isn't so far from true..

   Re: ujay (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » wow

you do realize it depends on the game, music or whatever
ex. gpsp: about 2 hours
lumines: about six hours

   Re: Umm (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » Umm

GPSP - 2 hours because its 333mhz CPU which takes up more battery

Lumines - 6hours because its 222mhz CPU which takes up a lot less batery. SO not game dependant but CPU speed dependant.

   Re: doo doo (Unregistered) - 2007-03-20
 » batteries...

they are prety much the same. at first, psp can last loong tiome, then after a couple of years or so...well its time for a new battery. Get it?
   by Illegal Machine - 2007-03-12
 » this wouldn't sell.

I sure wouldnt buy it.


1. I'll have an 8gb card sooner than that will come out, so unless it has a 100 gig drive, I won't really care

2. Touchscreen? are you joking? can you say unoriginal, and unnecessary? I hope these so called improvments break their bank for good...


Im really starting to hate sony.... I can only imagine them over at HQ

"the DS is outselling the PSP! Om my God let's give it a touchscreen"

MY prediction is that sony makes it, and it sells like wildfire for a month, then dies out like everything else sony makes


   Re: Vaza - 2007-03-12
 » PS2?

The PS2 sells loads? are you seriously saying that the PS2 has died out?

   Re: hmmm (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » Consider this

An 8GB memory stick costs over $300 USD. A redesigned psp with built in 8GB flash memory will (hopefully) cost less than that.

   Re: pro-techno (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » *****tard

"2. Touchscreen? are you joking? can you say unoriginal, and unnecessary? I hope these so called improvments break their bank for good..."

How *****ing retarded are you? Thouchscreen ain't unnecessary and it's being long ago becoming standard on all handhelds. iPhone will completely rid of buttons and make everything touchscreen. Again stupid retard is not a matter of being "UNORIGINAL", but where technology is heading and the practical benefits it becomes.

You really don't deserve a PSP, go back play with your crayons and playthough, *****ing retard!!!

   Re: not to flame, but (Unregistered) - 2007-03-21
 » iphone

the iphone was trademarked by cisco. I think I saw on a commercial that they've renamed it the "Hello". Yes, it sounds queer, but apple is kinda good at selling crap and making it appeal to noobs. I mean, hey, take a look at the ipod video: $400 worth of crap, when you could've simply gotten a pda that could handle all that, and a lot more (and how many of you are going to actually use all 80 gigs of storage? with a pda, just snap in a 4gig card, and you've got enough space for at least 8 movies using a homebrew divx player; when you get bored, just erase the movies, and transfer some new ones in. Simple as that. Oh yeah, and sorry for getting off topic. I'm an evilscarycomputergeek.
   by Connor (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » Sony = ****

If sony had brains they could just make the umds undumpable or just block iso's from loading on the system but they're not so i guess they'll just block out all homebrew and decrease profits.

   by whoelse (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » Uses UMD?

^^Whats that about?

Touch screen. I dont think so. I dont believe this at all.

   by Daman 10 (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » no way

i woundnt buy it waste of money but i think its not true i think there is a psp2 in the works but i think it will come out in like a year or 2 most likely 2 years though

   by Cadabena (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » MS Duo?

I am NOT getting one until I see the 'supports MS Duo'. I really hope it doesn't have a M2 slot instead, that would be so typical of Sony if they do. That would mean about 4 times less storage than a duo, and about 2 years behind in terms of technology on the sticks. I wonder though, if they're bringing it out to have support for the new HG MS Duos?


   Re: s (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » s

They will use MS Pro Quadro
   by Connor (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » Or.....

Sorry for second posting. They could get Dark Alex working for them that would increase profits unimaginably.

   by popi (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » if it goes i buy one

8 GB memory stick will be 150/100 euro or more.
if this new console goes for 150/200 with better controles, no ghosting... etc etc.

I will have no time to go shop, is just a *****ing great deal.

   by popi (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » i need more upgrades

smaller psp, with just a little smaller screen, (maybe 4 inch is big enought and the psp can get in your pocket), tactic screen for scummum emulator WTF, and grafics adventure games develop.

Antialiasing for hardware (is too hard include it???).
No ghosting, ergonomic, good buttoms like dual shock, and 2 better sticks, bigger batery, pfff sony do something good with this plz.

   by Crimson (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » Price

If all those features are true the things gonna probably be $600 lol.

   by dave (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » lol

psp2 for the ps2 formats :p

   by magubi (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » .

2008 maybe, 2007 no


   by scarface_tha_second (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » I Agree With The Guy That's Saving Up

I am also going to start saving up. If there is one thing PSP tought me, it is to go with Sony for handhelds ALL THE WAY. Also, Dark Alex and Fanjita will probably pwn a new PSP so quickly. I am all for all of those features although a touch screen would make a protective case a must have. Obviousley the graphics will also blow out any other competitor.


   Re: hahah (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » hahaha

lolololollolololololol so true....brings tears to my eyes
   by oregono (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » Maybe

Sound more like an upgraded PSP1 (1.5) rather than a psp2 - with the exception of touch screen. The screen on the psp1 is gorgous, so id like to see this one. I feel a touch screen would be rather gimmicky with sony-style products, but we shall see.

Personally, like i said, it sound more of consolidated psp1 with more features. It doesnt sound like a next-gen psp - with the exception of a touch screen - which i highy doubt.

   by AKZES (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » ...soo ready to get hacked

....so ready to get hacked, its going be the exact same thing but with better features on it.

   by MythBuster (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » FFS stop with the utterly moronic stupidity

The 8gig of flash RUMOR came from a scanned purchase order from Sony to Samsung for a very large load of 8gigaBYTE flashram chips.

Those chips are currently being used in Sony's own 8gig MEMORY STICKS, not internal flash ram......

Loading faster just means speeding up the CPU and the drive read speed, which in turn means lesser battery power......

Builtin camera means killing the sales of the already released Chotto Shot, even Sony isn't THAT stupid.....

Touchscreen??? People already have problems with scratching the **** out of regular PSP screens.

And only hamfisted morons have problems with existing PSP buttons or Dpad, I've pulled off every move in every fighting game out emulated or otherwise without modding my pad or buttons.

Kotaku is slipping.....BIGTIME


   Re: conzie (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » so true so true..

i have 2 agree with u m8. I have a chotto shotto and an 8 GB ms duo, and there's already a touchscreen adaptor (not an official one) but no-one uses it. Infact ti got completely ignored by the time ti was off QJ's headlines

   Re: shrimpdude - 2007-03-12
 » MythBuster?

Hello Kurgan. I guess your posting style is this annoying on every site you post at.
   by DTXSFC (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » Better Financial Move

If they were to release a PSP2 this would make it possible to drop the price of the PSP which could also increase sales to par with DS. Of course the PSP2 would have a hefty price with features like that much like the PS3 did so I really don't know if Sony would want to take another loss. With a camera, 8GB and touch screen that would around the $350 range. Now if they take the look of the Mylo and add that keyboard then it would be worth the price tag of $350 or more.


   Re: ... (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » ...

It would probably be a LOT more than $350... my guess is $500 at a minimum, which is why I think that this is just a rumor, and nothing more. If its not, I'll be ticked off that I just bought my PSP less than a year ago, and they are already coming out with an upgrade...lets stay away from stupid Nintendo antics here Sony...the PSP is already great how it is ;)
   by s (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » s

I believed that until the part with the 8gb and touchsreen things. No way they implement touchscreen. That would be so stupid. A screen full of scratches and so on. I like the solid screen as it is!
But touchscreen would be good for homebrew :P
And new noobs coming and saying:
"Iv3 g0t FW 789.1 c4n 1t b d0wngr4d3d y3t LOL!!!!!!11"
Also UMD? and what if I insert a PSP2 UMD into my PSP?


   Re: UMD (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » UMD

what will happent???lol same thing as when u put a PS2 disc in a PS1.. or a PS3 disc in a PS@2....


umm... dude... they will prolly make the UMD a blue-ray OR SOMWE OTHER FORMAT and thus not readable by PSP1... just PSP2...

   Re: Snarg (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » .

Well since it's just a modified PSP, any UMD should work fine in either one. They're not likely to be making an actual PSP2 but rather an updated PSP.

   Re: Micke (Unregistered) - 2007-03-13
 » Scratches?

Ehm, if there will be a touch-screen there will also be a scratch-resistant material, like any other touch-screen...
   by AKZES (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » poor dark alex

poor dark alex, is he gona continue with our PSP scene or leave when PSP2 comes out? it must be a pretty hard time for him

   by Haanz (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » Umm.. Excuse me?

Have QJ and the commenters gone mad? Have you ALREADY forgotton the rumours of a PSP2 being squashed by Sony not-too-long ago?


   Re: TheMysteriousThug (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » Well..

I've gotten confirmation of a PSP 1.5 awhile ago from someone who works at Famitsu that is expected to come this year.
   by you bunch of gullible idiots (Unregistered) - 2007-03-12
 » you bunch of gullible idiots




get a grip, sony has no way had enough time to develope a new handheld, thay have only just released the ps3. Im not saying there wont be one, but this is far too early for a new machine........ Odds are its just a bog standard psp made cheaper/smaller,


think about it

PS1 then PSone
PS2 then PStwo

you lot must be really thick!



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