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Sony was sending out Emails to its Commercial Retailers that all new PSPs to be sent out will have 'Downgradable Prevention' built right into them. All new PSPs to be shipped out as of next week Friday, May 18th, will be a higher firmware, 4.xx (specifics were not released), but they were promised to include new security features to prevent hacks and downgrades. Apparently this is one of their first steps to start focusing on the PSP again, instead of diverting all attention to the PS3. |
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Seriously why wont sony just give up the fight
Really, the Sony products are selling so well because of the possibilities you get when you hack them. The only thing is, the guys responsible for marketing (and possibly ken kutaragi) haven't noticed it yet. And still, TA-086 was considered un-downgradeable to firmwares less than 2.5. So this new mobo will probably get hacked in no time. Those Sony dudes must have really big balls to risk their sales like that.
am i bovvered?
sony is not making money by selling hardware actually with the ps3 they pay money for every unit sold. i dont think its much different for the psp...
Custom firmware rocks thanks sony!
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Improve the RSS with more features like edit and rename and reorder
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sony created undowngradeable firmwares before and theyll do it again >_>
as long as the hackers live... there is no such thing as non-downgrade-able...
Just the matters of T.I.M.E.
man that sucks its gonna be downgrade proof like the ta-082!!! DAMN! :-P
what if its like the 360, we cant downgrade them yet....
i've got a psp already, unless it breaks, i'm fine, and if it does, i just need to buy a 2nd hand one and i'm sorted.
and i think the 360 can be exploited potentially, it's just not an easy process yet.
All sony does is make the psp so that there is no information of a fw lower than 4.xx. There fore the only thing to do to the new psp is to hack them where they start, 4.xx. Knowing Sony, they will probably make a mistake and there will be a door left wide open, if we can find that door and exploit it.
I could care less about people who buy theirs now. Just less noobs running around. The new security measures are probably just another new motherboard.
(sourcing an EB Games Regional Manager in Calgary, Canada)
WHAT! YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME! BAHAHAHAHAHA. And you guys trust THAT? I could say that I'm the son of the co-ceo of sony and tell you that there's a ps4 comming next month and you idiots would still belive me.. come on.
They are trying to encourage companies to produce games for their system. With all the system sellers coming out (GoW, Final Fantasy Series, and GT), they have to get some help from third party sellers to help ride that wave, by making good selling games. Software sales for the psp sucks because of iso loaders. Why would anyone NOT try to stop the bleeding.
Could this new security measure be associated with that big complicated anti-piracy algorithm Sony made and was orgasming about around a month ago?
ya isnt this exactly what they said about the ta 82s and 86s? watch this get hacked on the first day of release ill laugh my arse off!!!!!!!!!!!!! FW 1.5 FTW
let sony do this...they will finally see what the PSP actually lives for...and that is everything homebrew
i would laugh SOOO hard when they see sales of the PSP plunge down
wouldnt ths make it harder to make a new custom firmware
because sony aint a loser lyk u who would give up dat easily.
well thats a load of balls
at least i got mine :P
wasn't the ta-082+ the same deal? undowngradable yadayadayada
its probably just helping the sony programmers find better shortcuts so they can program the ps3 and psp faster
How is this anything new? I think we could all agree that every new firmware has had "downgradable prevention" built in. I mean, it's not like they ever released a firmware that gave you the option of downgrading to an earlier one. When units started shipping with 3.XX firmware, I'm sure Sony felt they were including "downgradable prevention," but we all have seen what happened there.
I don't see how this email report should cause us any more trepidation. Our beloved hackers probably see this as another exciting challenge, designed simply for their cracking pleasure. So to Sony, I simply say "meh", to our hackers I bid good luck, and to my fellow gamers, I say don't panic, just be patient.
YARR! Sony is ANGRY! I bet the "preventable downgrade" function in their next PSP will be.... a non-upgradable FW ROM! Seriously. That's the ONLY way that's 100% foolproof. But even then, hacks can be found and HB can load from RAM.
So then I wonder, will there be the regular PSPs and then a more "secure" PSP edition?
That's what they said with nearly every firmware version past 1.5, but they especially said it with 2.0, 2.01. Every version past that were considered "un-downgradeable". I hope that WHEN (not if) we hack their so called "downgradeable prevention" PSP units, they see that they've lost and have been and finally give up the fight.
doesnt make any difference here, most games are cack on the psp ... best thing about it is all the emulators and homebrew :P
screw j00 sony! Leave my homebrew outta this!
lolz
I also play GameBOyAdvance so what :D
Maybe so but...I'm sick of FFVIII freezing on me and if new Firmware can no longer be hacked, I won't get a better PS1 emulator past 3.40.
All I can say is that if they are gonna make my PSP un-downgradeable with firmware 4.00 I also want loads of features. Not a single firmware has convinced me of droping dark alex, cuz sony just never give us any new firmwares... One more thing... Dark_AleX, get READY :D
there better be a good reason besides this that anyone would want this instead of an oe firmware. I am tired of sony just removing features but not giving us much in return. And what ever happened to watching movies on the PSPs. Why don't you guys let us do more of that?
There's no such thing as unhackable software. I give up to 2 weeks for hackers until they'll crack it. Then, DAX will make a OE/SE/UE/EE/xE/whatever custom firmware, and it will be the same way as in 3.00 fw.
There is definitely such thing as unhackable software (eg. Hello World) - just, with something so big as the PSP's firmware, it's really really hard to do it.
to a degree anyway - you could edit what text it displayed, if it was a form, the form title etc.
nice names here:
UE - Ultimate Edition?
EE - Extreme Edition?
sounds pretty cool...
Will mod chips still work cuz if they do then u will still be able to downgrade right???
Rejoice as this means 4.XXOE-A CFW.
As for the rest simply go to some backwater store that doesn't sell a lot of units and pick up your 2.60 FW PSP.
F-A-G-S, omg n00b they might not be able to crack the
PSPiece of *****, w/e who cares
Now hope the 4.xx firmware has Skype or VOIP built in, better GPS support, streaming video (where is Youtube Sony ?) or a better browser because the one from Netfront sucks a bit sometimes.
why are there no available comments on this topic: Al-Quran for the PSP ?
OMFG no way...lol AHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA
duh dude... its because NO ONE CARES about that POS...you r-tard...
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAH
(*points up*)
Thats why
Wow if they do that it's gonna SUCK for sales. like 70% of what makes the PSP is the homebrew hacks and all, because it brings out WAY more of the PSP's potential that Sony won't allow us to see for whatever reason.
Sony, let the grudge go, yes, devs made several awesome breakthroughs that threw Sony to the ground, but whether you know it or not it's HELPING sales of your PSP console. Only reason I bought mine was because I could also downgrade it to play homebrews and stuff, and that's the only reason my sis bought one as well... So stop and think a minute Sony. This very bad move will kill your console IF our devs can't beat it again, and if they can, you'll be lucky.
Sony doesn't want PS3 or PSP to sell aparently...
They know the PS3 doesn't sell because of price, but they won't lower it.
They can't lower the price, they're already losing money for each PS3 console they sell. What company would lower it?
funny when you talk about sony losing sales when all you people using hacked psps download the games for free. i know at least 6 people at work alone that have hacked psps and hard drives filled with every single game that has come out on the system. they get them the second the iso appears online and never spend a penny on the system besides the initial purchase. i really hope they do finally get this thing hack proof. would be nice coming here and seeing it a ghost town.
70% is totally B.U.L.L.S.H.I.T.
approximatily only 20% of all PSP AT ALL know about homebrew and the numbers are even lower when you only count people who CAN use homebrew....
i agree with Silver-Tiger, not a lot of ppl knw about homebrew....most ppl, like me, didnt even knw about homebrew when they bought a psp
FUX0RZ you, Sony!
First you're bringing down the Lik-Sang community, for some stupid ass power adapter sh*t...
Now you're bringing down the homebrew scene as well??
It's time you stop hating the homebrew scene and just make some friends out here....!
You will sell more PSP's then you will ever have...
next time just type ***** instead of FUX0RZ you dumb *****!!
its way more funnier than ****
HAHAHA MY BOSS IS REALLY CRAZY LOL..
JUST BUY A MODCHIP AND YOU ALL WILL BE FINE!
Eventually they will stop. the psp's FLASH memory is limited in size so.....and IF this new firmware has more security to prevent hacking, then that means ole dark alex will just have to UP his time and skill lol. either we will crack it to be downgradable, or we will ENABLE our homebrew to work with that specific firmware. no issue. in order to KEEP on fighting the hacking community, they will HAVE to either release a new psp model that holds more flash memory space, OR, they will have to keep making updates, that not only ADD security, but REMOVE features just to save space. they had mentioned this before.....said they might have to yank out the psp's ability to play MP3's and replace it with security shlt lol....PSP + Awesome System, Sony + Shlty Company. i can show you over 80 or so games that ROCK on psp. [to you who say psp is only good for homebrew]
TA-082 = Downgrade prevention
TA-082 = Hacked
The real question is whether the new firmware can be decrypted.
how long did it take to hack the TA-082? A long frickin time thats how long. all u guys thinking it's gonna be hacked right after it comes out are dillusional. sony wouldn't make such a big deal about if they thought it was gonna be easily hacked. they obviously have some kinda trick up there sleeve that is gonna keep us scratchin our heads for awhile.
games and movies are the driving force behind profits.selling units is not enough.software is more pfrofitable,that's why they hate piracy so much.
good thing i got my psp when i did.
But it doesnt really matter anyway, where ever there is a game system the is always a hacker to make it better. the 360 was hacked on the first week of relaunch, even tho microsoft said that it was "hack proof"
This wont be "Non- downgradable" either
people who use homebrew/hacking are a small minority of game players. there will still be tons of people who will go out and buy psp's after this, and play retail games, not even knowing about the homebrew scene. it will probably increase their sales, due to a price drop. $153 is pretty cheap for such a nice system.
But yeah seriously... this is no different from any other new firmware version. i remember back in the day when 1.0 and 1.5 was all there was, and we were terrified that 1.52 would never be cracked.
'we were terrified that 1.52 would never be cracked.'
we never cracked 1.51 and 1.52...
the devs lost intrest due to the new 2.0 update. You could basically swap the DATA.PSAR in an update and it'd run, but, yeah - the scene was well into 2.0 by then
Homebrew rocks. Someone please tell Sony that.
if you can't beat the law f.u.c.k. the law
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I will find a downgrade in no time. just let the units come out.
I am working on a 3.4 downgrader. Almost there
Just remember that they all said TA-082 was "unhackable"...
you can't even speak english, now piss off with your downgrade *****...
but if sony just made something like "a ta-082 like protection but on small UNflashable Drive" I think the next step towarts downgrading is custom update files.
and LOL do you think we need someone who can make a downgrader, well NO we only need someone who can find an exploit.(kernel + usermode)
but if the firmware is located on a unflashable drive the people who want to update their PSPs can't update. -.-
Not all devs speak english ;/ there are literally huindreds if not thousands of languages out there..
ahFX is right, even Dark_AleX is spanish,
Shut up n44p + b00n
what if the PSP DOESN'T update...it'll be on 4.XX forever until another PSP is out and u'd need to buy that for newer updates?
it may sound stupid but Sony may go to this extent
so no more firmwares
why would sony email retailers with specifics on the new models about how they cant be downgraded? how would this information be beneficiary to them??
The answer is pretty simple. To warn them. They are starting to catch on via reports and other information that people are downgrading their units and if successfull rely on the store's return policy to simply get another one with no reprocussions. Now SONY is telling them about their newer models so that they are informed about how secure it is and that if it gets returned it's probably not from a brick as it wont be that mainstream to say its been hacked and bricked. Now when we figure out how to downgrade/hack the damn thing sony will then call them again and tell them it's been hacked and warn them about it. Of course it is still up to your store's disgretion whether or not to take the unit back. (WALMART will but only for 90 days after date of purchase with reciept.) Without your reciept you can just lie about when you got it and take your chances.
Anyway I hope this clears things up a little bit. If my message appears incoherant. It's probably cause I havn't been to sleep in over 48 hours.....
Bring it on Sony... kernal exploit anyone?
well my opinion it may just be undowngradable i mean i think they could do it, but idk, any ways it will be loonnnggg time b4 it gets downgrades so im glad i got my 3.40 OE psp :)
Get 3.03 OE-C instead of that buggy thing.
i use 3.40 OE-A. I stayed at 3.03 OE-C for a long time after the newer OEs came out. 3.40 OE is very reliable and has plenty of nice features (such as autooot fixed, that hasnt been around since like 3.02 OE
there's no reason to stay at 3.03 OE-C anymore:
- You can use the newest Custom Firmware(3.40)
- You have all "new" functions of 3.40
- you can customize your PSP
- 3.40 is very stable, also the bug with the random writing to the flash is fixed.
Even Dark_AleX recommend to use 3.40 OE-A
3.03 OE-C is still better
it looks way better than 3.40 OE-A
I stayed at 3.03oe-c for a loooooong time... when I finally moved to 3.40 oe-a, i WAS afraid my older plugins/theme files wouldn't work... but most of them work just fine. (except topmenu_plugin of course, but there are new ones) so yes, 3.40 oe-a is your best bet.
PSP will never die
nuttin is unhackabable... almost like phony is challenging us. or they jast smoked too much of their mums crack... lyke saying winders will never crash... or my bum isnt hairy.. pshhha..... O_o o_O
talkin'about phones: if nothing is unhackable show me how I can unlock my Nokia phone with BB5 code....Nokia uses this for more than a year and it is still not cracked !
Now hope that I didn't give Sony any ideas how to protect their firmware :-)
wat kind of fone is it? model no.? nokias are crap!!
like i sed.. nuttin is unhackabable.. why you want to unlock anyways? look at freenokia.org.. i think dats the site...
Seriously, is this really news? Everybody should know that a new wave of psps should come with new firmware.
And the homebrew scene sure is nice but the best games are still delivered by sony. As soon as we can download PSX games from any pc. A 4.xx firmware isn't bad at all.
Why we should pay for their games? Because we want a psp2. Just think about the homebrew possibilities if somebody hacked it!
Sony are showing their true colours.
The colour of retardidness..
this is news. without a custom fw i none of us could download iso's to our memstick. i couldn't live. 4.xx is very bad. it will be hard to put a HEN on it....
Dark_AleX's will soon be back with HEN[Homebrew Enabler] for this...
TRUST ME.
do you think if i send a psp back to sony i will get that firmware? i might like to see it on my second psp
the only reason i bought my psp is so i could put a custom fw on it. i think that the only reason psp's are so pop is cuz of Dark alex. if it weren't for him, sony would have stopped making psp s along time ago. it is because of homebrew that they have made any money.....they are destroying themselves. unless dark alex can make another HEN. i think he will.
"Dark_AleX's will soon be back with HEN[Homebrew Enabler] for this...
TRUST ME. "
Assuming there will be something to exploit in that firmware version to run unsigned code.
Besides, even if they can't hack it firmware wise isn't that what a freaking mod chip is for? Geez, all this fuss from everyone.
You know, Sony have created unhackable firmwares before. 1.51 and 1.52 as examples.
i bought a another "K" 2.71 firmware psp from a busy walmart just this week... if they have that psp still, then i highly doubt they will be getting some 4.XX fully stocked in their stores any time soon. as far as the undowngradable part goes... i think some input about Dark_Alex can straighten out what exactly sony can or cannot do
"Apparently this is one of their first steps to start focusing on the PSP again, instead of diverting all attention to the PS3."
^^ what a bunch of bull....... my ps3 is collecting so much dust i dont think that would be the case if they had actually been placing all their attention to the ps3.....
ive bought 4 games...... and Resistance is the only one i even play the rest are JUNK along with the firmware.......
as for the psp damn im glad i have 2 with custom firmware.
BIG THANKS to DARK ALEX and his custom firmwares, PSP wouldnt be near as cool as it is without him! THANKS!
I went to a Best Buy here in canada and the firmware on the displayed PSP was 3.40.. you had a 2.71, lucky you.. but it wont be for too long. Besides that.. F-U Sony! and they were saying that 2.50/6 was unhackable! "try to hack it, and you'll bricked it" they were saying loll okay true.. its because of GTA but a downgrader was still made and kernal acces was found.. what Sony didnt expected to happened, did happened July 1st of last yr with a 2.50-2.60 downgrader and then with a 2.71 and 3.03 downgrader.. so yeah its possible! ;)
my psp just broke and i just found the gta thing i needed i am so pissed and i can't get a new one till june
two words: mod chip
Lots of talking anything can be hack thrust me ..................................................................................................................................................................ps1-dreamcast-xbox-ps2-xbox360-ps3 nothing can stop us!
ILL CRACK THIS ONE
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