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SCEA locks up homebrew talks at PlayStation Underground

Posted Sep 06, 2007 at 02:20AM by Ryan A. Listed in: Homebrew Development, News Tags: Sony, SCEA, Custom Firmware, Playstation Underground

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We are all already aware about Sony's official stance on the homebrew scene for the PlayStation Portable. The company's actions suggest that they don't want the community to continually mess up with their creation.

Today, we learned that Sony has just brought the battle to the PlayStation Underground Community by officially banning all homebrew-related talks on the said board. QJ.NET reader Miley_424 tipped us off on this development and explained that this did not surprise most members of the community.

What happened was a forum moderator (who represents SCEA as his/her username suggests) reiterated that homebrew applications void the warranty of PSPs. The moderator went on and provided the following topics that are not allowed to be discussed over at the PlayStation Board:

Custom firmware
Themes, applications, custom bootup animations/sounds, and other materials made available only with use of homebrew programs that may be used to aid or facilitate copyright violations (such as Eboots, ripping software, decryption software)
Debugging software
Programs designed to emulate firmware
TIFF applications
Programs designed to provide for modification of the PSP code or firmware, or that would allow for any exploitation of the PSP® system firmware flashing software
Applications designed to bypass PSP system and game security features
Emulators, ROMs, CSO, ISOs, or any other unauthorized copies of copyrighted material
Software or hardware designed to aid or facilitate in cheating

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by KURiBOS (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» ...

finally...

Re: bob (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» woah

damn the mods are going to being working extra hours to clean up the forum because their is a lot of threads thats talks about homebrew

Re: dov (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» lol

this was just soo pointless and pretty much gay..
but what we should understand, that Sony doesn't get the main percent of the money from the PSP units, but from the sold games..
and if they enable homebrew, that enables ISO loading, they'll sell more units, but game studios will leave the platform.. and PSP will die..
capis?

Re: Ext. (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» I reported both of you as spammers

enjoy ass holes

Re: PSPCONMAN (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» Guess...

... Guess they just lost a customer. No slim for me.

Re: Mikey_424 (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» wtf

wtf my name is mikey_424 not miley_424........ but tyweah i hate it im either gonan opening my own forums now or join this one

Re: metalspector (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» READ! This is something I wrote in the Playstation.com Forums

Ok, most of you already know what has happenned but due to the new rules and not going to even spell out the magic words so that if SCEA deletes this post then it will reveal SCEA directly attacking the customers by not allowing them to express themselves.

Recently, SCEA has just posted some news, news that do not justify themselves. This new regard software most of us run on our psps which aren't officialy made by sony but by other respected groups, which sum up to hundreds al throughout the internet. This types of software have been declared by sony dangerous just like many times before, but this time SCEA has decided to prevent all discussions of these kind of software in SCEA's playstation forum. This has been done with no justificably backed up reason with such reasons ranging from: that sony can't take responsibility for any system malfunctioning related to these kinds of softwares and showing us that the System Software License Agreement does not allow this kinds of things. This seems to be ironic seems, in fact, running many of these softwares actually can make your psp system more invulnerable to software malfunctioning due to recovery states it can offer and jigkicking the psp system's life and recopying essential files to fix it without sony's repair business which charges an atrocious amount of over 50 dollars plus shipping and handling. In addition, the System Software License Agreement isn't something that actually directs itself towards the consumers as the packaging of the psp systems themselves does not point this things out for them and in order for someone to actually know this is after buying the psp system. This is ironic as Sony sells the system as some potential merchandise but then backstab you when you buy it with system software rules. Aside from looking at the manual for this software license agreement which should be written on the system's packaging, this rules are stated when accepting to upgrade your system, but most of these upgrades are pushed by the fact that you need to upgrade your psp to play certain games, which, in fact, do not state in their packaging that require upgrading the system's software. On top of this, this practice of leaving the customers no choice but to upgrade is in fact an illegal practice (unless tha games packaging stated it requires them) since the product cannot be returned to retailers because of SCEA's malpractice towards the customer which is not the retailers fault, and sony takes advantage of this in that they know that no customer will prosecute them to court due to this fact.

SCEA has just showned that every move they take is based towards their revenues and winnings and no attention is given to the customers. This is not new since Sony has, since a couple of years, have resorted to various methods such as viral ads, lying to the customers, and even violating copyright infringements, for maximizing their winnings. This greed that has led Sony into taking many wrong decisions have affected their fanbase as less people trust or beleive in sony everyday since they're not getting what they payed for, not only with their money, but there support.

I plead that discussion of these softwares are opened and accepted again in this forums. These things you attack so much are what is shaping the playstation gaming scene. I consider that these types of software do affect the cpmpany's revenue, yet I beleive that in the long term they may actually keep the playstation scene alive. It may not be considered now as a possibility, but you will see that by time people will grow weary of the absolute control that is being imposed on the customers and they will be driven away, and this will cause people to forget about the Playstation brand and later the Playstation brand could die due to the competition. If the discussions of the mentioned softwares are stopped then there probably won't even be a reason of calling the forums "Playstation Underground", it will be more of a "Official Playstaion Ground" (metaphorically speaking, since t

Re: AlexRoxUrSox (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» Sigh

If you make the hardware, you deal with the consequences. People hack, its their own choice. You can't RFID every PSP in the world and then track down hackers with the CIA. Thats just *****ed up.
SONY, If you aren't happy with this, stop *****ing developing. Your losing more money than your earning.
And Im also proud to say that I finally own a UMD writer and a library of 200 Blank UMD's.
So Sony, *****ing bite me.

shamindar@hotmail.com

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Re: D@rk_Zer0 (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» Re: Dov

" this was just soo pointless and pretty much gay..
but what we should understand, that Sony doesn't get the main percent of the money from the PSP units, but from the sold games..
and if they enable homebrew, that enables ISO loading, they'll sell more units, but game studios will leave the platform.. and PSP will die..
capis?"

well to tell you the truth mr DOV i dont think you are very intelligent.

First of all it's spelled 'capisce'.
SECOND if $ony were to enable homebrew dont you think their tight a$$es would be able to block iso loading? say maybe... idk... they could make their own HOMEBREW! and sell it in packs like 2 bucks each or something and all of it wont have iso loading in them.

by second (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» second

SECOND

by bada (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» ...

nothing gonna stop us anyway

by asd (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» third

Sony wonder why there sales are so terrible.

Re: Ext. (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» No they don't

Cause sales aren't terrible you fanboy retard

Re: erekiddo (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» sony sony sony

after that they will ask themself what went wrong with the forum....no one will ever go again.....

Re: NightVortez (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» ...

Hardware sales are great, software sales are terrible because of homebrew, they should have locked those threads when they first started appearing.

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by Futurama_Freak1 (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» bah

Those asses.

Re: FreePlay (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» Sony's doing the right thing.....for them

Honestly I'm not surprise Sony banned it. What surprises me is why did it take Sony that long to ban it since we homebrewers are operating out of our free will to do what they or any other Gaming company in their position opposed from day one.
Priating games will only hurt Sony and lose developers if that happens the games I've waited so long for like FF7 Crisis Core, God of War Chains of Olympus, Devil May Cry will no longer come out for PSP. That's a big loss of the best games possible on PSP. They banning Homebrew in PSP underground doesn't hurt us at all, after all we know where to get our hacks from.

by Zocks (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» Legal... ?

I dont think making the PSP Homebrew Legal, will affect Sony in any Bad way.. and in fact, thanks to the possibility of Homebrew I am pretty sure they sell more PSPs as if it were unhackeable... well, another millions things to say here.. but I am tired of this Thema...

Re: FreePlay (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» ...

PSP homebrew *IS* legal.

Re: poo (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» ...

well of course homebrew is legal - its the custom firmware and cso/iso loaders that lets you play pirated games that isn't...if i was a developer and i found out that a sony made it so that you can easily pirate my games i wouldn't make games for their systems. sony will only benifit from this for a short time until developers realize that they can't make that much money from making games for their systems.

Re: Cyberblade (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» @poo

Actually, custom firmwares and cso/iso loaders are legal. Same reason as console emulators. The program is legal, but the files that it runs are usually not. The only legal roms/cso's/iso's are the ones you make yourself using your disc. Copyright law allows for the creation of a backup.

Re: sigh (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» @poo

@poo

you do know theres something called a PC right? They are very easy to pirate games for. Its not stopping dev's. Your argument makes no sense.

Re: mohaas05 (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» ...

i guess sony did screw a bit when they made UMD the same iso standard as DVD. if they made it different it would at least be harder to hack.

by Azriphale (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» Stick it up your asses Sony...

Yeah they are going to quell our scene stopping homebrew speak on that shítty board. Omgzorz. What a pile of greedy bastards. FFS, they boggle the mind with their bull*****.

Going around signing every umd or demo Eboot with their *****ty software thinking they are great lads.

Dont get me wrong, i loves teh psp, but for what this scene has done with it. Not what Sony has done.

They deserve every bit off loss they encur from infringement at this stage, they have lost all sense of whats good about a handheld system with a basic CPU.

Re: mohaas05 (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» ...

i dont think stopping the talk on the boards is right but your argument is way wrong. sony doesn't care about homebrew. its just that with homebrew comes piracy which hurts them and developers. they don't block it just to be mean.

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Re: FreePlay (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» Sony's doing the right thing...for them

Honestly I'm not surprise Sony banned it. What surprises me is why did it take Sony that long to ban it since we homebrewers are operating out of our free will to do what they or any other Gaming company in their position opposed from day one.
Priating games will only hurt Sony and lose developers if that happens the games I've waited so long for like FF7 Crisis Core, God of War Chains of Olympus, Devil May Cry will no longer come out for PSP. That's a big loss of the best games possible on PSP. They banning Homebrew in PSP underground doesn't hurt us at all, after all we know where to get our hacks from.

by emitrom - 2007-09-06

» Way kill kill your system sony

I love my psp so why do Sony want to stop me making the most of it? Hell why does Sony not want more sales? Is there some kind of strangeness that means they *don't* want to make a profit?

Why on earth they cannot create at least a user mode sdk for homebrew doesn't make sense. Or even a walled-garden kernal mode access system that just doesn't allow ISO to be run! Come on Sony you really telling me you cannot do that? Sounds pretty simple to the rest of the world.

Worried about user experience? Then have a flash screen before booting any eboot file to say not supported by Sony; job done. At users own risk.

Fed up with lack of software and lack of control of my system that I paid good money for only to be limited by narrow minded execs that don't understand technology and peoples ( consumers ) requirements. How about hiring some people that actually understand the market you are trying to sell to for a change Sony?

Re: s. wozniak (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» your inquiry

hello, emitron. I am speaking on behalf of Sony. While I'm not authorized to represent Sony, I will make a statement as to why we can't allow homebrew. First of all, it would take up too much space on the Flash 0 (of course, inexperienced novices like you don't even know what Flash 0 means).

Second, there's the risk of our company being sued. I've heard rumors that some people have found a way to use grand theft auto to play nintendo 64 games. We'd be sued by nintendo very quickly if we legalized it.

Third, there's the risk of corrupting the firmware. This is called "black booting". This is when you turn on your Playstation Portable, and all you see is a black screen. When this happens, the only thing that can be done is to return it to us, and allow us to use some proprietary hardware to restore the firmware. This is very costly to the user, and there is no way to restore a black boot PSP without our service. I believe that novices call it "rocking" or "stoning" their PSP as opposed to "black booting". However, stoning or rocking is the incorrect term. The correct term is "black booting".

Finally, the final reason we cannot release homebrew on PSP is because not enough users have joined this site: www.c@shcrate.com/259295 (replace the @ with an A)

Re: d (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» d

Nor will anyone join that crappy site.

Re: JL (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» To correct you, Wozniak

I'd say most people on here know that the flash0 holds the firmware.

As for the GTA, I believe that helps the user flash the PSP to V1.5. (Though I'm not absolutely sure) From there, they can add emulators, n' such. Though this can also be done with Hot Shots golf, lumines, and certain .TIFF images.

"Black booting" may be the official term, but most people on here call it "bricking" Because it makes it as useful as a brick. ;) Though with custom firmware, this is not a problem, because it has a recovery mode. From there, you can boot the PSP into recovery mode, even if the rest of the flash0 is corrupted. While on recovery mode, the user can access the flash0, on their computer as a USB devise, and replace the corrupted files.

Also, you are no longer the only ones who can revive "bricked" PSP's. Thanks to Homebrew, the user can now create "Pandora" batteries, and Memmory sticks. When inserted, these will flash the flash0 to any firmware you want.

Re: SirBe (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» JL...

If you honestly believe that "S. Wozniak" is an employee of Sony, then you must have not read his entire post. Even so, by just reading this, you should be able to tell "Second, there's the risk of our company being sued. I've heard rumors that some people have found a way to use grand theft auto to play nintendo 64 games. We'd be sued by nintendo very quickly if we legalized it.". As if Microsoft would be sued for releasing Visual Studio just because you can create emulators with it? THIS IS BLASPHEMY!

Re: Well said but... (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» ..

emitrom I agree with your ideas to get around all the legal crap, but here is the question. What if $ony is for homebrew but not iso loading, and they fight us because they know they more thay push the more we push back? plus Isn't fighting $ony half the fun? Just my 2 cents.

Re: KQ (Unregistered) - 2007-09-07

» GOOD BYE QJ forum?

This is the end for the psp qj forum.
No hombrew no Qj

Re: s. wozniak (Unregistered) - 2007-09-07

» ...

ok, seriously, I'm sorry if anyone thought i was really a real sony worker. I was just satiring them. First of all, admit it, "black booting" sounds like something sony would say. Second, s. wozniak is a joke on the name steve wozniak (look him up. His company makes some cr@ppy hardware). Also, did you get the joke that I was acting stupid where I referred to bricking as rocking and stoning :P

Finally, sony wouldn't waste its time here. It has better things to do. (yeah, right)

I think next time I'll impersonate Jack Thompson.

by Flame_PSP (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» ram_lives@optusnet.com.au

o well i already got banned from their fourms for talking about iso's and calling some guy a fricking noob idiot because he said he had firmware 2.73

by FreePlay (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» Good riddance!

That forum is full of IDIOTS.

Example: the dozens of people who think that the Datel battery can magically downgrade the PSP without the Pandora software.

Re: DJ (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» Why...

the hell do you type in that name?

*NOOB*

Re: DJ (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» oops...

sorry dawg....meant to reply to the dude below.

by coolguy5678 (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» why am i logged in as coolguy5678?

I dont even know who that is.

Anyway, the PSP forum on the Sony boards is now dead. Homebrew is all they talked about on there.

Re: DJ (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» Why...

the hell do you type in that name? *NOOB*

by bnc9 (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» whats the point of a description

SONY doesnt get the fact that homebrew is the only reason y the PSP is selling jeez these guys think its a prob with their hardware or something......

by justin (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» anyone?

know the best site to go to for homebrew talk?

Re: troll bait eater (Unregistered) - 2007-09-07

» yum, troll bait

well, I'll go ahead and take the troll bait, sigh...

I hear of a site called "www.pspupdates.qj.net"... You should try it out sometime.

Also, try out www.c@shcrate.com/259295
@ is supposed to be an a

by fearevil19 (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» OMG!! O_O

i just taked a look at ps underground furoms and OMG!! those are some real jerks, they actually think that official firmware is cool

by Hellraiser (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» Some playstation underground!

Watch them make up fake posts now with viral marketing tricks. Here's an example:

by PSP fan - 25 min ago
When are the new great upcoming PSP games going to come? I can't wait for the next Syphon Filter game! I can't wait for the new feature packed 3.60 firmware update too.

by sony lover - 14 min ago
Yeah I'm definately going to pick up a copy. Right now I'm playing Lair on my PS3, it's awesome! Did you know it has the incredible remote play feature? I also can't wait for the new slim PSP. I'll get one for every member of my family! I know they'll all love it for a Christmas gift!

by Hellraiser - 2 min ago
This is some viral marketing scam. $ony's done it before.

WARNING! WARNING! You have been banned for plotting against sony! Lawyers are on their way to your house! DANGER!!

Re: geekboy2007 (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» dude this is funny

this is funny - they don't even try to hide the fact that they are advertising as well.

Re: FreePlay (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

by Unregistered_Coward (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» Lets just be honest here

The fact is, as long as there is homebrew there will be piracy and as long as piracy is as simple as dragging an ISO into the ISO folder Sony will lose sales.

If Sony opened up the Psp with an official homebrew SDK that was limited to User Mode someone would exploit that to enable Kernel Mode.

Not only that but a lot of the emulators we love will never be supported in any official SDK because of copyright so Sony have no option but to prevent ALL homebrew. Sony created the Psp for commercial games and multemedia content, not Snes, GBC, CPS and N64.

Catch you later, im going to go and play some GBA on gpSP :)

Re: Hellraiser (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» true, but...

Maybe people would feel better about buying games and supporting sony if they weren't such b1tches.

by ZackVix (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» who uses their board anyways?

Yeah, who does? they can lock it up all they want, real Homebrewer don't go there to get stuff

by Silver-Tiger (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» Why? here's the reason.

Why does Sony call it PSP Underground anyway?
They can call it "Official PSP Board from $ony" and would be the same.

Also, some of you don't get that right. With the PSP price out there now, Sony doesn't make much money, similar to PS3.
The real money machines are the games. And with all the ISOs out there, Sony don't get that money. If Sony would allow homebrew, some people would create an ISO loader anyway. And there's no way of makin' the firmware hackproof. You should know that by now. So it was no wonder that they lock HB. Homebrew will boost PSP sales, but will also reduce sales of UMDs.

Get that now?
HomeBrew=ISO loader=less money for Sony.

Re: bc (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» PSU

Playstation Underground is not a Sony site, it is a fan site that talks about PS news.

Re: SandmanXXi (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» ...

If they were that worried about it they would start encrypting thier umds and call it illegal to rip from UMDs. Theres more people out there with non CFW psp's than there are with. As far as I know its not illegal to rip the UMD because there is not encryption.

Re: bc (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» whoops

Silver-Tiger, you are right. I was thinking about Playstation Universe.

by SandmanXXi (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» ..

I dont know why sony doesn't just run with the homebrew scene. If they did I bet they would sell alot more units. Also I hate the way sony acts like they despise homebrew when I bet almost all of those high up sony people probably have 3.40 OE-A or 3.52 M33. they need to quit trying to kill the homebrew scene and just run with it.

Re: Umaga (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» True but there's a slight problem

Yeah Hardware sales would go up by a larger margin but software sales would go down even lower than what they already are. Sony takes a loss in Hardware but they make up that loss with the software.What is the freaking point of selling 20 million PSP units worldwide when games can't even sell half a mil?

by Leeuwtje (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» bla`

the succes of the console depends on if it can run homebrew/isos.
Thats why ps2 was so popular and NGC wasnt.
Same happening with 360 plays backups and takes a rise in sales, wii plays backups and takes a rise in sales, consolesales peak when its hacked.

by Xver. (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» Expected.

Talk about expected. but i thought they would have done this way earlier.
hm. guess not.

by TRAIDER (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» Enough of the Homebrew *****

go build your own damn handheld system from scratch. If Job and Wozniak could do it from their garage, I'm sure some intelligent person out there is able to construct a home brew only handheld system.

Then again, that ***** will just whore himself out in the end. There's no real honest character anymore in people. They're all in it for their own best interest.

A home brew hand held system manufactured for the sole purpose of pirates and bootleggers. ARRRRRR!!

Re: rich dude (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» agreed

I agree. Now where do I get the money from such an undertaking. I think some guy said we should go to www.cash crate.com/259295 (no space). I think I'll start working on making this system at my local park. OH! I'll call it a gamepark! And I'll make it a 32 bit system. So, let's call it the gp32!

by arrogant (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» sony gets a big head

Sony is quite arrogant on that one. Sony is feeling very confident with the new PSP slim design by exhibiting a stance of power and total control with their "YOU CAN LOOK BUT NOT TOUCH" attitude. I'd like to refer to the new PSP slim's security design as the Titantic because its going to sink one day.

Hey Sony, there are other forums out there.

by SpongeBob (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» well...

Not much point going there now.... :(

by HakatoX (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» s. wozniak you area jackass

"third, there's the risk of corrupting the firmware. This is called "black booting". This is when you turn on your Playstation Portable, and all you see is a black screen. When this happens, the only thing that can be done is to return it to us"

yeah...see what you dont know?
talking smack about someone not knowing what flash0 was... and then you spew retardation about how only sony can unbrick PSPs... get lost you retarded piece of gravel scrape

by e (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» f

What they should do is release a version of the firmware (3.60 HB) that users pay for and have full homebrew access with. THat way they would make money off it.

Re: Nobody (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» ya, sure

I'm pretty sure that Sony would get sued by everyone thats ever made a game for PSP or any of the systems it emulates.

It's a lot harder for Sony to pirate software without anybody noticing than it would be for some random dude with a hacked PSP.

Re: d (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» d

Microsoft isnt sued for the hundreds of console emulators on its operating system, neither is Apple, why is Sony's firmware so different then Mac OS X and Windows?

Re: xxx (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» O RLY?

Did M$ openly approved and encouraged the use of emulators on their systems? And Apple also?

Re: GrayFox777x - 2007-09-11

» what about freedom, SCEA?

Apple and MS don't have to openly approve of it. They just can't really do anything about it in the first place. Sony needs to realize that about the PSP's homebrew capabilities. It's not a PC, but it is the same in some ways.

As for the Playstaion Underground forums, I hope they lose tons of members over this fascist bull*****!

by paperless (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» well that forum is full of noobs

that forum is full of noobs who barely know what a computer is...this is actually a good thing because it will prevent ignorant people from making things that only advanced users should do.

by df (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» fd

I just went to their boards and clicked the REPORT ABUSE TO MODERATOR button on that post and told them the following:

"This thread is extremely abusive. I think it should be deleted immediately and SCEA banned from posting on the PS Forums."

Re: JL (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» You are hilarious!

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

by AR (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» Mess up the ps forums

It would be hilarious if everyone spammed the ps forums in retaliation. Everyone just makes a bull***** thread. That would be cool.

Re: childish (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» childish

childish

Re: GUy (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» childish

but fun :)

by Your mother (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06

» hmmm

Removing those subjects from a forum on the PSP pretty much means that 80% of what's interesting about it is in "forbidden territory".

I'd funny to me that Sony, a company I so love and respect can think that preventing people talking about a topic is any kinda of solution to what they deem is a problem.

I mean come on, "forbidding" people to exchange information and knowledge on the internet is absolutely futile.

If they don't talk about it here, they'll talk about it elsewhere. Why not embrace the community? "Better the devil you know." - as they say.

Banning these topics changes nothing, but embracing them may actually help Sony! If in no other way, then by way of public opinion at the very least.

Telling people homebrew is a taboo topic? C'mon....

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