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by ManiacX (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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That is why we have the Recovery Menu.....Something that they don't ;)
That is why we have the Recovery Menu.....Something that they don't ;)
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Re: Sentinel (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» SCEA's Homebrew opinions...
SCEA must HATE homebrew due to the PERMANENT damage it does to one of their beloved creations.
I read somewhere (Official) that most PSP units that comes back to the factories, around the figure of 90-95% are due to CFW and Homebrew related incidents. The rest 5% is just accidental and hardware faults.)
Then again, when the first Playstation (TM) system was released and people started creating backups/emu's/homebrew's and such, the world was awakened with the possibilities/ideas of this EVOLUTION.
IT'S THIS KIND OF ENHANCEMENTS THAT MADE THE SYSTEM INTERNATIONALLY RE-KNOWNED!
And also made countess of unfortunate kids/people that cannot keep up with the financial baggage that it generated a chance to enjoy the same wonders and fantastic video gaming experience that some of us enjoy freely.
It's the same case with Microsoft. Without these so called 'Users enhances' it is MOST LIKELY that others wont even contemplate of trying out their products.
I think these major industries OWES more than what they have EVER lost to the PEOPLE that made gaming what it is today.
And like anything in this world, industries should just adapt and allow these 'enhancements' to blossom to it's finest and let evolution take it's natural course of action(s).
Without the 'Big brothers' taunting and competing each other (Official VS non official users/devs/companies) and learn from each others INTERNATIONAL successes.
If this does EVER happen, then I BELIEVE than this will bring MUCH better products and a MUCH RICHER experience and FINANCIAL RETURNS to it's founders. Regarding ANY materialistic future releases.
In other words, LIVE AND LEARN. INSTEAD OF B!TCH AND COMPLAIN ON HOW THESE ARE THE SOURCE/REASONS ON IT'S ERRORS.
The ONLY FAILURE is the PEOPLE THAT MADE ERROR OF JUDGEMENTS TO BEGIN WITH...
Learn from your creation(s) and cooperate/intergrate your ideas from each other to release the FIRST EVER 'User(s) approved' (proven and acknowledged) software/hardware marvels.
SCEA must HATE homebrew due to the PERMANENT damage it does to one of their beloved creations.
I read somewhere (Official) that most PSP units that comes back to the factories, around the figure of 90-95% are due to CFW and Homebrew related incidents. The rest 5% is just accidental and hardware faults.)
Then again, when the first Playstation (TM) system was released and people started creating backups/emu's/homebrew's and such, the world was awakened with the possibilities/ideas of this EVOLUTION.
IT'S THIS KIND OF ENHANCEMENTS THAT MADE THE SYSTEM INTERNATIONALLY RE-KNOWNED!
And also made countess of unfortunate kids/people that cannot keep up with the financial baggage that it generated a chance to enjoy the same wonders and fantastic video gaming experience that some of us enjoy freely.
It's the same case with Microsoft. Without these so called 'Users enhances' it is MOST LIKELY that others wont even contemplate of trying out their products.
I think these major industries OWES more than what they have EVER lost to the PEOPLE that made gaming what it is today.
And like anything in this world, industries should just adapt and allow these 'enhancements' to blossom to it's finest and let evolution take it's natural course of action(s).
Without the 'Big brothers' taunting and competing each other (Official VS non official users/devs/companies) and learn from each others INTERNATIONAL successes.
If this does EVER happen, then I BELIEVE than this will bring MUCH better products and a MUCH RICHER experience and FINANCIAL RETURNS to it's founders. Regarding ANY materialistic future releases.
In other words, LIVE AND LEARN. INSTEAD OF B!TCH AND COMPLAIN ON HOW THESE ARE THE SOURCE/REASONS ON IT'S ERRORS.
The ONLY FAILURE is the PEOPLE THAT MADE ERROR OF JUDGEMENTS TO BEGIN WITH...
Learn from your creation(s) and cooperate/intergrate your ideas from each other to release the FIRST EVER 'User(s) approved' (proven and acknowledged) software/hardware marvels.
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by Highsight - 2007-07-01 |
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» O NOES!
Homebrew may destroy your PSP! O NOES! If homebrew destroys my PSP, what else will I use to play... um... what games would I be losing again? Crisis Core I guess... Um...what else... Can I get back to you?
Homebrew may destroy your PSP! O NOES! If homebrew destroys my PSP, what else will I use to play... um... what games would I be losing again? Crisis Core I guess... Um...what else... Can I get back to you?
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Re: Supersonic (Unregistered) - 2007-07-02 |
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» to me
it just sounds like Sony is saying that so if anyone does f**k up their PSP with homebrew they won't be sued by them.
it just sounds like Sony is saying that so if anyone does f**k up their PSP with homebrew they won't be sued by them.
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by Alex (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» Well...
It does make since for Sony to not support Homebrew, because if they did they would have to repair all the bricked PSP's and that would make them loose lots of money. But I am all for Homebrew, yo.
It does make since for Sony to not support Homebrew, because if they did they would have to repair all the bricked PSP's and that would make them loose lots of money. But I am all for Homebrew, yo.
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Re: hi (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» hi
they woudlnt have to
they woudlnt have to
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Re: __-_- (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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They could simply state in the user agreement that any damage caused by hombrews will not be repaired by them..
WE HAVE RECOVERY MENU PEOPLE!!!!
They could simply state in the user agreement that any damage caused by hombrews will not be repaired by them..
WE HAVE RECOVERY MENU PEOPLE!!!!
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Re: yo (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» dip*****s
they could enable homebrew on FW, therefore NO BRICKING
they could enable homebrew on FW, therefore NO BRICKING
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Re: GaveUpTomorrow - 2007-07-02 |
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hey yo...do you realize that people would start to create viruses for the PSP if homebrew was openly allowed....thats right, some nice brickers that are disguised as homebrew games..
hey yo...do you realize that people would start to create viruses for the PSP if homebrew was openly allowed....thats right, some nice brickers that are disguised as homebrew games..
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by yoffish (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» creole snacky
They're just covering their asses. Homebrew eventually means pirated isos, like it or not.
They're just covering their asses. Homebrew eventually means pirated isos, like it or not.
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Re: MM (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» OK
SO LETS SAY THAT THEY APPROVE THE USE OF HOMEBREW, THE ONLY THING THEY HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IS ISOS BECAUSE THEY WILL LOSE MONEY ON UMDS BUT WOULDNT THIS INCREASE THE SALES OF MEMORY CARDS TO HOLD ALL THOSE ISOS.
SO LETS SAY THAT THEY APPROVE THE USE OF HOMEBREW, THE ONLY THING THEY HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IS ISOS BECAUSE THEY WILL LOSE MONEY ON UMDS BUT WOULDNT THIS INCREASE THE SALES OF MEMORY CARDS TO HOLD ALL THOSE ISOS.
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Re: mr toasty (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» uh
See that little button about 3 rows up from the bottom of your keyboard? It's on the left side. yeah. That's called the Caps Lock!
TURN IT OFF ASSHAT
See that little button about 3 rows up from the bottom of your keyboard? It's on the left side. yeah. That's called the Caps Lock!
TURN IT OFF ASSHAT
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Re: GaveUpTomorrow - 2007-07-02 |
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» It may very well..
increase the number of memory cards that were sold, but that would mean more money for Sony, Sandisk, etc...the companies who sell memory sticks...while the money would be taken away from the game developers...thus meaning that the developers wouldn't make any more games, meaning there would be nothing to pirate, thus killing the PSP....Sony is making the right move, hackers are just finding the cracks..
increase the number of memory cards that were sold, but that would mean more money for Sony, Sandisk, etc...the companies who sell memory sticks...while the money would be taken away from the game developers...thus meaning that the developers wouldn't make any more games, meaning there would be nothing to pirate, thus killing the PSP....Sony is making the right move, hackers are just finding the cracks..
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Re: Act II - 2007-07-02 |
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» so its obvous
have gamedesigners make memory sticks instead. or i would like the idea of buying a memory stick pre loaded with a game or a movie instead of umds
have gamedesigners make memory sticks instead. or i would like the idea of buying a memory stick pre loaded with a game or a movie instead of umds
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by chuck b33zy (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» so wait...
im not really sure. someone correct me if im wrong on this but but OFFICIAL sony firmware lets me do what again? i mean, lol i havent had it in so long i cant really remember...
but i think... the psp was like basically... *****ty....im pretty sure til homebrew. i mean, i started with homebrew at 2.60 and now i play my psp a lot more.
its kinda what sony deserves for sellling me a brick to begin with. one that could only play songs and the few good games that it has. now in addition to those few games i can play ANY ps1 game, and combined with daedalus, people at my school actually ask me to play my psp. without homebrew, psp would be just about as fun as neo geo pocket color.
im not really sure. someone correct me if im wrong on this but but OFFICIAL sony firmware lets me do what again? i mean, lol i havent had it in so long i cant really remember...
but i think... the psp was like basically... *****ty....im pretty sure til homebrew. i mean, i started with homebrew at 2.60 and now i play my psp a lot more.
its kinda what sony deserves for sellling me a brick to begin with. one that could only play songs and the few good games that it has. now in addition to those few games i can play ANY ps1 game, and combined with daedalus, people at my school actually ask me to play my psp. without homebrew, psp would be just about as fun as neo geo pocket color.
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Re: CarBoyCam (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» I agree
I first got Homebrew on my 2.80. And yes, it made me play my PSP alot more. Then, once I downgraded with o0km's Downgrader, and installed DAX's 3.02 OE-A (Around Xmas Time), I couldn't put my PSP Down!!!!
I first got Homebrew on my 2.80. And yes, it made me play my PSP alot more. Then, once I downgraded with o0km's Downgrader, and installed DAX's 3.02 OE-A (Around Xmas Time), I couldn't put my PSP Down!!!!
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Re: chris (Unregistered) - 2007-07-02 |
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carboycam we had the same experience. i remember trying tiff homebrew and that ***** sucked, and i was terrified using Ookm's downgrader but it paid off in the end. i bring it everywhere with me now.
carboycam we had the same experience. i remember trying tiff homebrew and that ***** sucked, and i was terrified using Ookm's downgrader but it paid off in the end. i bring it everywhere with me now.
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by weirdkd08 - 2007-07-01 |
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» sony makes a point
u cant really blame them for trying to protect their own creation and plus if homebrew would be leagle in the psp then coders could just make better games than sony and sony is just trying to protect their market
u cant really blame them for trying to protect their own creation and plus if homebrew would be leagle in the psp then coders could just make better games than sony and sony is just trying to protect their market
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Re: Same poster (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» Just a glitch
Yeah it's back to normal now
Yeah it's back to normal now
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by weirdkd08 (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» ??
Why did my name come up as Weirdkd08? I did not make this account, nor did I log in as it.
Why did my name come up as Weirdkd08? I did not make this account, nor did I log in as it.
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Re: weirdkd08 - 2007-07-01 |
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» thats my account!
how com u have my username?
how com u have my username?
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Re: ugh (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» rofl stupid quick jump glitch
rofl stupid quick jump glitch
rofl stupid quick jump glitch
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by sinX - 2007-07-01 |
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» But What About DAX??
Ya, but what they don't mention is that after one flash of Dax's extremely safe custom firmware that with the added recovery menu your PSP is practically unbrickable! So, pretty much is boils down to this;
PSP + Offical Firmware + Homebrew = Possible Damage
Where,
PSP + Dax Custom Firmware = Virtually Unbrickable
Ya, but what they don't mention is that after one flash of Dax's extremely safe custom firmware that with the added recovery menu your PSP is practically unbrickable! So, pretty much is boils down to this;
PSP + Offical Firmware + Homebrew = Possible Damage
Where,
PSP + Dax Custom Firmware = Virtually Unbrickable
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Re: CarBoyCam (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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DAX can go f.u.c.k himself. I hope he dies.
DAX can go f.u.c.k himself. I hope he dies.
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Re: nightshade15 - 2007-07-01 |
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» @CarBoyCam
No U!
No U!
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Re: gregerson316 (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» CarBoyCam
Alright little BOY, you can go smoke a big fat donkey sausage. What have you done to help the PSP. You shouldnt be telling anyone that they should die, except for yourself because nobody here would miss you.
Alright little BOY, you can go smoke a big fat donkey sausage. What have you done to help the PSP. You shouldnt be telling anyone that they should die, except for yourself because nobody here would miss you.
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by r.e carboy cam (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» yeah
because he did so much wrong
he made me want to play my psp
oh no
and he is to thank for the tons of iso's i have
because he did so much wrong
he made me want to play my psp
oh no
and he is to thank for the tons of iso's i have
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by Ryalla - 2007-07-01 |
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» .
What's new? This has been posted before.
What's new? This has been posted before.
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by meh.. (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» not bothered
Sony is a Japanese Based company so it
wouldn't really matter to me if SCEA voiced thier opinion.
As for SCEE, its just the same asically...
Sony's (SCEJ's) opinions are what i'm really intrested in.
(none of this american/english crap...)
No offence though..
Sony is a Japanese Based company so it
wouldn't really matter to me if SCEA voiced thier opinion.
As for SCEE, its just the same asically...
Sony's (SCEJ's) opinions are what i'm really intrested in.
(none of this american/english crap...)
No offence though..
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by mrjubjub (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» lol
Homebrew destroyed my psp. So i can basically see where they are coming from.
It was 3.40ea that *****ed up my UMD drive, or something. (Makes a clicking noise when turned on, and can't read UMD's. [software issue, not hardware]) I went back to 1.5, but problem was still there. heh. gotta try to reflash 1 or 0. idk.
Homebrew destroyed my psp. So i can basically see where they are coming from.
It was 3.40ea that *****ed up my UMD drive, or something. (Makes a clicking noise when turned on, and can't read UMD's. [software issue, not hardware]) I went back to 1.5, but problem was still there. heh. gotta try to reflash 1 or 0. idk.
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Re: vipre77 (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» Doubt it...
Sounds like a hardware failure, bud. The custom firmware hasn't changed anything in how the UMD drive itself functions. Your problems had nothing to do with the OE-A firmware. The timing of your problem is merely a coincidence.
Sounds like a hardware failure, bud. The custom firmware hasn't changed anything in how the UMD drive itself functions. Your problems had nothing to do with the OE-A firmware. The timing of your problem is merely a coincidence.
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by One-Tick (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» Ok and...
Thank you for the article, Captain Obvious.
Thank you for the article, Captain Obvious.
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by SeparateEntity (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» Hypervisor
Sony should provide a 'hypervisor mode' in a future firmware, that prevents access to flash and UMD, and provide an official homebrew dev kit.
Sony should provide a 'hypervisor mode' in a future firmware, that prevents access to flash and UMD, and provide an official homebrew dev kit.
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Re: Kersh (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» (Y)
Agreed .
Agreed .
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Re: chrtis (Unregistered) - 2007-07-02 |
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» .
ALL homebrews prevent access to flash numbnuts. it, like all firmwares, would be cracked.
ALL homebrews prevent access to flash numbnuts. it, like all firmwares, would be cracked.
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by Smokey McPot (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» someone at sony
"these software downloads have not been officially tested nor approved by SCEA and may cause damage to your PSP system. " Then someone at sony better get off their ass right now and test OE firmware :P
"these software downloads have not been officially tested nor approved by SCEA and may cause damage to your PSP system. " Then someone at sony better get off their ass right now and test OE firmware :P
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Re: blackmobb - 2007-07-01 |
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» +)
AMEN TO THAT!
AMEN TO THAT!
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by Mister_Beefy (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» Uh..duh?
Thanks for that, Captain Obvious (QJ Bloggers).
Yours truly, humor.
Thanks for that, Captain Obvious (QJ Bloggers).
Yours truly, humor.
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by aNILEator - 2007-07-01 |
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» Yup, so homebrew will crash systems....
So ironic that my PSP RDOD'd when I put in the Medievil UMD Game disc and pressed X
Then they refused to fix because I had got it from Japan.
never ahd any problem with homebrew or flashers at all
So ironic that my PSP RDOD'd when I put in the Medievil UMD Game disc and pressed X
Then they refused to fix because I had got it from Japan.
never ahd any problem with homebrew or flashers at all
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by Korlithiel - 2007-07-01 |
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» This isn't unexpected
Since this is only a response from Sony's support this isn't even worth considering news, they don't give real responses only those listed in front of them on their screen.
I feel that we should have the option to run any software we please as long as we are willing to pay the price of no longer having a valid warranty.
Sony is in the right because there is a large demographic that feels their device would be unsafe if anyone could make a program for it.
I do feel irked that Sony puts so much into security and so little into firmwares and treating it as-if it is because we could do illegal things on our PSP's that it is simply enough to stop people from doing it rather then to create an outlet.
Also, Sony could definately make it worth our while to stop using homebrew by making something like the Live marketplace and profit off of people making homemade games and selling them or even off of them being distributed for free by adding advertisements.
Since this is only a response from Sony's support this isn't even worth considering news, they don't give real responses only those listed in front of them on their screen.
I feel that we should have the option to run any software we please as long as we are willing to pay the price of no longer having a valid warranty.
Sony is in the right because there is a large demographic that feels their device would be unsafe if anyone could make a program for it.
I do feel irked that Sony puts so much into security and so little into firmwares and treating it as-if it is because we could do illegal things on our PSP's that it is simply enough to stop people from doing it rather then to create an outlet.
Also, Sony could definately make it worth our while to stop using homebrew by making something like the Live marketplace and profit off of people making homemade games and selling them or even off of them being distributed for free by adding advertisements.
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by me (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» what a surprise
Sony is sticking with an outdated "closed" platform console business model. History shows that organizations like Sony have to be dragged, kicking and screaming, into the new paradigm and give consumers what they want rather than what Sony dictates they should have.
marovada
http://freescifistories.wordpress.com/
Sony is sticking with an outdated "closed" platform console business model. History shows that organizations like Sony have to be dragged, kicking and screaming, into the new paradigm and give consumers what they want rather than what Sony dictates they should have.
marovada
http://freescifistories.wordpress.com/
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Re: joe (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» what the *****
you're an idiot, it says it recommends not to because it can damage you're system, which it can. it's called being responsible you moron. Why would sony be against homebrew, they just don't support these exploits because they allow illegal copy's of games to be run, they are just protecting their brand. homebrew is pretty *****ty and pointless anyways, there isn't much to do.
you're an idiot, it says it recommends not to because it can damage you're system, which it can. it's called being responsible you moron. Why would sony be against homebrew, they just don't support these exploits because they allow illegal copy's of games to be run, they are just protecting their brand. homebrew is pretty *****ty and pointless anyways, there isn't much to do.
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by rafi (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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well i remeber there was tis 1 thing or maybe even 2 or 3 times where there was a game or something eboot when u run it it will screw up ur flash0 then brick ur psp. since that they made that eboot protecter that checks if it writes to flash or not
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by fdsfsaf (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» fsdfsdfa
Realy they are just wanting to monopalize the content.
Realy they are just wanting to monopalize the content.
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by LordPhrozen (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» hmmm
sony has the right to do whatever they want. It's their hardware.
If you had a game system, that you sold for under cost, and were only supported by the money you made back from software sales, you wouldnt want free games all over either.
HOWEVER, sony, IN MY BIASED, SELFISH, opinion, should have the option for us to run games we create, with a language they provide, similar to microsofts XNA aproach.
Reward game cerators, buy their games, resell for even more profit. GG Logic.
sony has the right to do whatever they want. It's their hardware.
If you had a game system, that you sold for under cost, and were only supported by the money you made back from software sales, you wouldnt want free games all over either.
HOWEVER, sony, IN MY BIASED, SELFISH, opinion, should have the option for us to run games we create, with a language they provide, similar to microsofts XNA aproach.
Reward game cerators, buy their games, resell for even more profit. GG Logic.
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by newtral (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» Sony's answer is logical
Scenario: Sony allows homebrew and supports the homebrew community.
Result: A homebrew program bricks a PSP.
Aftermath: Sony, kicking themselves for publicly allowing homebrew programs, now has to repair dead PSP's AND try to figure out why it got bricked so it doesn't happen again.
No intelligent company would ever say it's ok for anyone to mess with the firmware, kernal, OS, etc, of their proprietary system. But if they did a Yaroze thing, then they'd start to see support all over the place. IMPO, I think they simply don't have the time or resources to dedicate creating an environment where homebrewers can try their code. There are so many variables to consider, they'd have to open a whole new division just to keep up with the never ending, always changing directions everyone's always taking.
By keeping the PSP development controlled, they control the future of their company. I'm not saying I agree with everything they're doing, but they've made a lot more money than I have in life so they've got a formula that's working. They will never be able to satisfy everyone though.
Scenario: Sony allows homebrew and supports the homebrew community.
Result: A homebrew program bricks a PSP.
Aftermath: Sony, kicking themselves for publicly allowing homebrew programs, now has to repair dead PSP's AND try to figure out why it got bricked so it doesn't happen again.
No intelligent company would ever say it's ok for anyone to mess with the firmware, kernal, OS, etc, of their proprietary system. But if they did a Yaroze thing, then they'd start to see support all over the place. IMPO, I think they simply don't have the time or resources to dedicate creating an environment where homebrewers can try their code. There are so many variables to consider, they'd have to open a whole new division just to keep up with the never ending, always changing directions everyone's always taking.
By keeping the PSP development controlled, they control the future of their company. I'm not saying I agree with everything they're doing, but they've made a lot more money than I have in life so they've got a formula that's working. They will never be able to satisfy everyone though.
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» Consider this
Sony doesn't have to change their policy of covering bricked PSP's, nor should they.
Consider though how much they could profit, not so much from the homebrew software that is made, but rather how much they make from each system (the price-drop happened only because Sony was making so much from each system that they could lower it in each of the regions and still profit from each system sold) and the memory stick and the increased software sales.
Heck, because the PSP is seen as a peripheral for the PS3 it may help sell some of those units, especially if this whole limited homebrew thing were opened for both systems, as well as possibly sell some more Sony camera's due to increased memory stick sales.
Sony doesn't have to change their policy of covering bricked PSP's, nor should they.
Consider though how much they could profit, not so much from the homebrew software that is made, but rather how much they make from each system (the price-drop happened only because Sony was making so much from each system that they could lower it in each of the regions and still profit from each system sold) and the memory stick and the increased software sales.
Heck, because the PSP is seen as a peripheral for the PS3 it may help sell some of those units, especially if this whole limited homebrew thing were opened for both systems, as well as possibly sell some more Sony camera's due to increased memory stick sales.
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Re: Raui (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» Only half true
Newtral said: "No intelligent company would ever say it's ok for anyone to mess with the firmware, kernal, OS, etc, of their proprietary system."
When in fact Linux is a completely open-source Operating System. Homebrew has got the computer where it is today. If sony was smart they would have a homebrew S
Newtral said: "No intelligent company would ever say it's ok for anyone to mess with the firmware, kernal, OS, etc, of their proprietary system."
When in fact Linux is a completely open-source Operating System. Homebrew has got the computer where it is today. If sony was smart they would have a homebrew S