Posted Oct 20, 2006 at 06:58AM by Ian C. Listed in: News Tags: Sony, PS1
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making classic games available


Here's a very positive piece of news from Sony Computer Entertainment's Gamers Day: Sony revealed how PS1 games would end up on PSP's memory stick.


The PSP will get its games from the PS3. Instead of building a network specifically for the PSP, or trying to connect the PSP to Sony's Connect service, gamers can log into the PlayStation Store using their PS3, find your favorite PS1 games there, buy and download them, and then enjoy it on your PSP.


IGN speculates that that the PlayStation Store will also be integrated into the PSP in a future PSP firmware update. For now though, the console is integral for digital distribution. A number of PS1 gamers are already listed on the PlayStation Store. There is no promise though if the titles will be available for the PSP during launch. As for pricing, stuff on the PlayStation Store shouldn't exceed $15, so the price for PS1 game downloads should be within that range.


Personally all I can say is this: "Hot Damn. Finally!" Allow me to geek-out for a bit and say that Final Fantasy: Tactics better be up on that Store, okay, geeking-out over. Anyway, is the PSP-PS3 integration we've been waiting for? Feel free to comment.




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   by Lolophon (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » Yeah

FIRST! FTW!, no just kidding ...sound bad for the psp

   by assneck mcgee (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » uhh

not if the pirates can help it

   by snake (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » ugh

this is crap. sony suck ass.


   Re: Sarita (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!and other words

I agree this, sucks. They are making you buy a PS3 system in order to get PS1 games for the PSP.
   by lionel007 (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » ??

This sucks, I need to have a PS3 to play/transfer ps1 games to the PSP. I have a PSP and that's all I want/need from Sony. I hope the firmware will be releasaed soon to allow non ps3 owners, to d/l games directly from/to the PSP. But good technique from Sony to bind the PSP customer to buying a PS3.


   Re: Karl Marx - 2006-10-20
 » doubt it

I doubt Sony would make it a PS3 exclusive thing. You'll probably be able to download through your PC too, once they get it all running. They just said they wouldn't be putting up direct wi-fi downloads to the PSP itself.

   Re: Splatter (Unregistered) - 2006-10-21
 » PSP

You piss me off anymore sony, then i'm going to sell my PSP get a ds and a wii.
   by InfraBLUE (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » This is bull$hit

SO, to get ps1 games on a psp you need a ps3? and the ones you already own have to be rebought? this is sonys solution to low psp sells?

No wonder the companies going down, they dont care about the consumer. I actually had faith too...... i guess this is the one time im supporting pirates then. There has to be a way to rip my old games.

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   by darknite111 - 2006-10-20
 » Ridiculous

So if I want PS1 games on my PSP i have to spend $600 (realistically $2000 if I want it in the next 3 months) plus the cost of downloading AND upgrade the firmware of my PSP?

This does not seem like the simpliest solution.

   by Minus5252 (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » This is BullS**t

So basically, in addition a console that is EXPENSIVE, it is also a game server that is EXPENSIVE. There is no way I will buy a PS3, as I don't think gaming companies should get so far ahead of the industry hardware-wise. There is still plenty of development that could be done with the XBOX360 and the PS3. They should've waited a year or so and released more reasonably priced games. Having the initial reliance on having PS3 to play PS1 games WON'T help PS3 sales, but it will piss PSP users off. Once again, Sony drops the ball.


   Re: DBX00 (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » Lack of information

I'm sure that Sony has taken the fact that not everyone wants to use the PS3 to transfer the files. They'll probably release more information regarding this when the PS1 emulator is going to be released for the PSP or when they get the PS1 working on the PS3 by the end of the year. I do recall them saying that they wanted the Playstation Network to be available on any platform, so you probably will be able to access certain things from your PC and transfer to your PSP that way. Let's not take a lack of information and assume it won't be available until they specifically talk about the PSP firmware 3.0.
   by Daniel (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » I hope..

I hope we can emulate the games that we already have (somewhere thrown away under a pile of dust somewhere in some closet) into PSP format so we don't have to waist money on actually buying them.

   by proud gay (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » wtf

who cares...PS1 sucks anyways..why would you want to play some old ass ***** on your PSP?.........

























WHERE MY GAYS AT?


   Re: Old school Gamer (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » Old games are sweet.

Im guessing you dont have homebrew on your psp if so I pity you. I use my psp only to play old games like snes,nes,turbo graphfix, gbc etc. Tho its all free so its all good. So have to buy a ps3 to get sony ps1 emu then pay for old ps1 games makes no sense. Most good ps1 games besides the final fantasy already have ports to other consoles no real point in playing something with ps1 pretty bad graphics. Nice job sony and yet again making a cool feature crappy.

   Re: Big Lou Dogg (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » Calm down....

You uppity homo.

   Re: proud gay's dad (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » ahhh no

Son you better be quiet because those games were the stepping stones to the great platform games you see today and are still better than some piece of crap games coming out today
   by cory1492 - 2006-10-20
 » Buy my junk... please?

Nothing like holding an over hyped long awaited feature (for $500+ PS3 ransom) that would for many justify even owning a PSP. I mean, if you own a PS3 with backwards compatibility already... whats the point? I'd even bet you buy them and then cant even play them on the PS3 itself, just PSP.

Darn straight someone will hack it (or another emulator) to pieces and put them in their place.

(of course, this is all speculation until the PSP2 is out :P )

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   by Vietone - 2006-10-20
 » Give Sony time

As it stands, they probably want to test this out to a limited number of people. Like beta testing to see how it goes. Then they will release it on the PSP when they feel its the right time.

Companies have been doing this for years and Sony is no different.

Think of it this way, maybe Sony will use those Demo Kiosk as Playstation Store kiosk as well. You goto your favorite gamestore, Connect the PSP, buy PS1 games and transfer them to the PSP. Might explain why the PS3 Demo kiosk have such huge hard drives.


   Re: Cold Facts (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » Sony doesnt have time

Sony's stock has dropped like 62% i think i heard and many developers are pulling away from the PS3 and the psp is almost dead. Sony doesnt have any time. They something big to bringt hem in sales and things like this pull poeple away.

   Re: TO: cold facts (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » Youre an idiot

Sony's stock has not dropped 62%... and when you say its dropped you need to say a time line. Ok its way down from 2001... but can we all say DUHHH! its trading at about 40pts now so its down about 10 points or.. say it with me 20%. Thats fairly relative as well. You cannot rate a company soley on their stock prices. Looking further into the company they are doing ok. In fact most analysts (the real ones) say hold Sony stock.

The PSP is also far from dead. Did you take stupid pills as a kid? How can you sell MILLIONS of units of a product, then call it dead. Please don't ever start a business, you'll fail fast. Please also, stop posting, because someone might catch your dumb.
   by bop (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » super

great not only do you have to rebuy your ps1 games you have to get a *****ing ps3 to do it. screw you sony

   by Jerlandon (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » Reasons for owning a PSP

It seems my only real enjoyment on PSP is from SNES games on the go! I was really looking forward to PS1 emulation but I have no plans of owning a PS3. I can't even afford a HDTV yet. I bought a PSP at launch and I hate Sony for punishing me for not being able to afford their "bargain" Blu-Ray player. I don't care how they justify the price...it's too high.


   Re: omg (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » wow

it's so convenient to blame on the manufacturers nowadays for not able to afford anything ;)
   by Spaced (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » omg

I need a *****ing ps3 to play the long awaited ps1 games on my psp?

bs and no way. hope somebody will hack and crack that stuff into nothingness, so we can just copy our ps1-isos into some psp-folder and start playing.


   Re: nick (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » so obvious.

whoever didnt see this coming since they announced the ps1 emulation is blind.
   by duder (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » ROFLCOPTER

That's gotta be the best gimmick I've ever seen. "We know you don't want to fork over $600 for a PS3, but wait. Oh you want PS1 games on your psp. Well...in order to do that your gonna need one of these *holds PS3 in the air*". Just do yourself a favor and go the Wii60 way. I'm not a fanboy for either or and I've liked both companys for it's own style of entertainment. But if you ask me, Sony has let me down with the PSP with all the hype and I'm starting to see the same trend with the PS3. Sorry Sony, even though you filled my heart with your RPG goodness, I think PS2 will be the last system I own of yours.


   Re: Splatter (Unregistered) - 2006-10-21
 » The Game Wars

I mean Microsoft conquered the counsel platform, and nintendo the portable platform, where does that leave sony, so sony do yourself and be a thirdparty gamer.
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   by Tristanm (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » .

I say we find out how they format their PS1 games, see if there is a way to copy that, and if there is then just rip some PS1 games we already own and put them on our PSPs. Unfortunatly, chances are they may have altered the games to make them more PSP compatable which would mean we couldn't just rip our old PS1 games. I guess we have to wait and see how this will all work.


   Re: liquidtenmillion (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » Unfortunately...

Unfortunately, that is impossible. The game's source code is edited to provide things like different controls, or to tone down certain scenes that heavily use the PSX framebuffer, and the game is completely recompiled to be a PSP "native" executeable.

There will be no way to ever convert an ISO to the PSP.
   by Whazaah (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » Damn :(

That... Ain't right man.

Especially for europe, where the ps3 will be launched in March of something like that. And even then, it'll still be 600,-

Ah Well, they BETTER have Metal Gear Solid 1, Cuz I Just Loove That Game

   by FunnyStuff (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » PS3 + PSP = Goodbuy Homebrew

Sounds like sony is going to make you update the PSP whenever you connect it to the PS3. So PS3 connectivity is going to be useless to most of you. Sony will continue to kill homebrew with firmware updates. But you'll probably get desperate enough for games that you'll need to run the update and download somes PS1 games to keep you busy till the next decent PSP title comes out.


   Re: Nope (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » ps1 games arent that great

SNES owns ps1. Plus if you have a ps3 can just play ps1 games on it for FREE. This is just making poeple hate sony more. Playstation 1 isnt even the best system out there lol I dont understand why poeple want an emulator for it so bad imo N64 owned the ps1. Plus if you have a psp you know how bad sony sucks why would you waste your money on more of there crap?
   by Gabe (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » safe for now?

Well it appears you'll need a PS3 to buy PS1 games for your PSP until they integrate the store thingy into the PSP, so put your pitchforks down.

Anyway, I wonder how well-guarded against piracy the new PS1 emulator by Sony will be. I mean what's stopping hackers from buying a copy of a PS1 game through the store, remove all the protections and spread it; or even worse hack the emulator itself to run ISO's etc.


   Re: Splatter (Unregistered) - 2006-10-21
 » Location Free PLayer

To put Ps1 games into the psp you can use the locationf free player which will be built into the Psp so you won't have to buy the 300 dollor PLayer, just turn in your old psp and get the new one.
   by Tristanm - 2006-10-20
 » .

Well, that is true. But these games are being put directly onto the memory stick. This means that these games will end up all over the internet. Is this piracy? Yes, but only as bad as something like downloading a SNES game. I mean really, it's a PS1 game. There is no way for them to compile a copy for a specific PSP. There's just too many.

   by Illegal Machine - 2006-10-20
 » Little kids wont care

Because they wont remember those gtames at all... most of them are over 10 years old anyway... and adults KNOW better than to pay sh1tloads of money for something they already own..


another bad Idea from sony... I can't wait for it to get pirated

   by Bone|Disturbed (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » Nails

LoL, basicly Sony is hammering nails in their own coffin, this is hillarious ! Even though I really had my hopes up for the PS1 Emu. :( No way in hell i am buying a PS3 anytime soon, so I'll wait for it to drop in price, or by god i will start joining the pirats...

   by ¤¤¤¤¤ §§§ (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » using PS3 to authorize pre owned PS1 game for download

May since the PS1 games will be slightly modified to work with the PSP's button configuration, You'd be able to download any of the games you already own for free by having the PS3 read the PS1 game for authorization.
Here's hoping


   Re: xbox 360 owner (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » dont think so

they would not make money with that plan since you can buy old ps1 games for 3$$$...plus people could just borrow games from their friends ..and i dont think ps1 games have online identification codes to identify already used games since they where not meant to play online.plus im pretty sure sony had to rewrite some of the game codes for it to work with the sleep feature of the psp and the lack of a second analog stick for the games that use it.so my point is your old cd playstation games are WORTHLESS.this is really not going to be successfull i give it 1 year before it get taken down like umd movies..
   by ken (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » thats gay

what about us without ps3's?
its just a gay ass way for sony to try to make money cuz ppl will buy ps3's.

   by Edlad (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » screw them!!!

This completly sucks ass, they've been getting gamers excited for months at the prospect of playing ps1 games on the psp, and then they deliver this kick in the stomach. Why bother setting up the psp demo download interface and then say "You can't use this to get ps1 games". I for one feel betrayed.

[Aside: There's a Ridge Racer 2 demo available on yourpsp.com]

They're still bastards though.

   by spokesman (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » PC downloads?

Who knows, Sony may later allow PS1 downloads on a PC. But I wouldn't bet on it. Personally this doesn't bother me since i pre-ordered a PS3. Too bad I have to wait until MARCH 2007 :(

   by me (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » that sucks

THAT SUCKS. I will never buy a PS3.

   by Adrian (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » Only Crap

It means that I will need a PS3 to download games for the PSP (Of PS1), thats bull*****, because only 1 million people will be able to have this feature for 2 months, I want a PSP speccifical network.

   by manaox2 (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » summary?

So, a $500-$599 PS3 is needed FOR NOW (until rumored future firmware update). The games are $15 at most, making it expensive for both necessary requirements for recieving ps1 games.

A firmware update will be required to use ps1 games (not completely confirmed).

Rumor has it that the interface may be used through kiosk explaining large harddrives.

You may not just rip your old game and use it.

These issues are more likely to make pirating attractive,especially for users who have already payed for the game.

My thoughts: Firstly, it is doubtful that Sony will ever use the PS3 to verify that you own the game due to the market value of the games currently being so low (maybe a discount at the most). They will claim you are paying for "the service".

Also, none of this should be too huge of a concern at first as until a new version of devhook comes out supporting version 3.0 (and possibly a firmware spoofer, it doesn't matter unless you really want to lose what you have by updating. Was anyone REALLY excited about PS3 PSP interconnecting?

This IS going to be pirated.

   by zim (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » *****

***** you sony, this is why people hack your software.


   Re: nicko01 (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » Yea...

We all hate them for being such retards.
I'm not paying for games I already own. And I'm not updating my FW.
Sony, thank you, but...
YOU SUCK!

   Re: Ludikhris (Unregistered) - 2006-10-20
 » READ THIS

http://psp.ign.com/articles/740/740691p1.html

you can probably use the PC

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