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by Police (Unregistered) - 2006-07-15 |
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» And once again...
...this begs the question: Why now? These companies are just sitting on their patents and waiting for tech to take off so they can go off raping successful companies rather than being the successes themselves. It's the tech industries real life version of 'Camping'.
...this begs the question: Why now? These companies are just sitting on their patents and waiting for tech to take off so they can go off raping successful companies rather than being the successes themselves. It's the tech industries real life version of 'Camping'.
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by anonymous stranger - 2006-07-15 |
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» cmno sony dont die
Dang.. sony need to stop getting sued... who care if they steal ideas? is the dumb ppl that did a bad job covering up... if sony keep getting sued... we wont get ps4 or psp2... imagine that.. living in a world of blue screen of death while fighting enemys alongside mario.... that would suck..
Dang.. sony need to stop getting sued... who care if they steal ideas? is the dumb ppl that did a bad job covering up... if sony keep getting sued... we wont get ps4 or psp2... imagine that.. living in a world of blue screen of death while fighting enemys alongside mario.... that would suck..
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by senjutsu - 2006-07-15 |
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» I like your comment anonymous stranger lol
yeah thats right #32, without sony we're lost! I don't want M$ to slip the market with nintendo. Mario kinda suck after like 20 years of buisness, and M$ is not the godd idea, you try windows?
oh, and SHUT UP to who's talking about "sony is not a good boy"!!! man this is harassing, people knowing nothing about buisness thinking everybody is clean and gentle!! wtf, open your eyes!!! and anyway only one out of 8 patents passed!
yeah thats right #32, without sony we're lost! I don't want M$ to slip the market with nintendo. Mario kinda suck after like 20 years of buisness, and M$ is not the godd idea, you try windows?
oh, and SHUT UP to who's talking about "sony is not a good boy"!!! man this is harassing, people knowing nothing about buisness thinking everybody is clean and gentle!! wtf, open your eyes!!! and anyway only one out of 8 patents passed!
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by metalspector (Unregistered) - 2006-07-15 |
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» to #8
The first protable console to have to screens was made by nintendo in the 80's playing games like game and watch and it had the exact same physical appearance tahn the DS , nintendo doesn't talk about it cause it was a failure , and the first portable console with touch screen was the other failure known as game.com by tiger electronics which din't sell well cause they had no credit in gaming industry , but nintendo has found out that if they use the name gameboy for any protable crap they wanna release it will torn out well. Anyways what do I think of what sony did , every company does it , this is something normal , and to the guy who said how can sony have so much money if they keep losing? , the answer is that they make around 1.5 billion dollars clean , loses of hardware have already been substracted and employee payment and taxes too. If not they would make like 3 billion per year lol.
The first protable console to have to screens was made by nintendo in the 80's playing games like game and watch and it had the exact same physical appearance tahn the DS , nintendo doesn't talk about it cause it was a failure , and the first portable console with touch screen was the other failure known as game.com by tiger electronics which din't sell well cause they had no credit in gaming industry , but nintendo has found out that if they use the name gameboy for any protable crap they wanna release it will torn out well. Anyways what do I think of what sony did , every company does it , this is something normal , and to the guy who said how can sony have so much money if they keep losing? , the answer is that they make around 1.5 billion dollars clean , loses of hardware have already been substracted and employee payment and taxes too. If not they would make like 3 billion per year lol.
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by comedy - 2006-07-15 |
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» this company 'agere' is it an american company?
i hate to generalise, but it's really annoying that this goddamn american past-time of suing everyone is starting to piss me right off...
if they're not american, and are in fact english then i'm a bit of a tit aren't i?! but i'm willing to take that risk.
i agree, 'business ethics' is an oxymoron.
i hate the idea that you can patent a semiconductor, or trademark 'you're fired' or patent an asymmetrical weight.
yeah, microsoft are good, they stole from immersion, but paid them off as immersion were only asking 40million usd. they wanted 600million usd from sony, so a 90million usd bill is an improvement, but still totally unjustified.
it's stupid, this bloody system of being able to patent any tiny little stupid idea... 'theft' is a fact of life, and if it means we get 3 good consoles all using the good ideas (it seems analogue sticks are just like joysticks but smaller, and they were around way before n64).
you'd seriously rather the days of the saturn, ps1 and n64 were back? with nintendo foolishly using cartridges, sony only have digital dpad, and sega (or perhaps the newbies, microsoft) not having any innovation whatsoever (apart from bsod!)
shut up about 'sony are lamers' etc, the whole legal issues with these patents are stupid and pointless... it is just small companies who can't be arsed to work for a living trying to milk larger companies for money. haven't microsoft been sued by multiple places with respect to windows and internet explorer etc? it always happens and i believe the system should change.
i hate to generalise, but it's really annoying that this goddamn american past-time of suing everyone is starting to piss me right off...
if they're not american, and are in fact english then i'm a bit of a tit aren't i?! but i'm willing to take that risk.
i agree, 'business ethics' is an oxymoron.
i hate the idea that you can patent a semiconductor, or trademark 'you're fired' or patent an asymmetrical weight.
yeah, microsoft are good, they stole from immersion, but paid them off as immersion were only asking 40million usd. they wanted 600million usd from sony, so a 90million usd bill is an improvement, but still totally unjustified.
it's stupid, this bloody system of being able to patent any tiny little stupid idea... 'theft' is a fact of life, and if it means we get 3 good consoles all using the good ideas (it seems analogue sticks are just like joysticks but smaller, and they were around way before n64).
you'd seriously rather the days of the saturn, ps1 and n64 were back? with nintendo foolishly using cartridges, sony only have digital dpad, and sega (or perhaps the newbies, microsoft) not having any innovation whatsoever (apart from bsod!)
shut up about 'sony are lamers' etc, the whole legal issues with these patents are stupid and pointless... it is just small companies who can't be arsed to work for a living trying to milk larger companies for money. haven't microsoft been sued by multiple places with respect to windows and internet explorer etc? it always happens and i believe the system should change.
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by Crazy (Unregistered) - 2006-07-15 |
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» M$
All the M$ fanboy how did M$ started. By stealing thats how.
All the M$ fanboy how did M$ started. By stealing thats how.
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by Proof (Unregistered) - 2006-07-15 |
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» How M$ started up
"Two young hackers were intrigued by the Altair, having seen the article in Popular Electronics. They decided on their own that the Altair needed software and took it upon themselves to contact MITS owner Ed Roberts and offer to provide him with a BASIC which would run on the Altair. BASIC (Beginners All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code) had originally been developed in 1963 by Thomas Kurtz and John Kemeny, members of the Dartmouth mathematics department. BASIC was designed to provide an interactive, easy method for upcoming computer scientists to program computers. It allowed the usage of statements such as print "hello" or let b=10. It would be a great boost for the Altair if BASIC were available, so Robert's agreed to pay for it if it worked. The two young hackers worked feverishly and finished just in time to present it to Roberts. It was a success. The two young hackers? They were William Gates and Paul Allen. They later went on to form Microsoft and produce BASIC and operating systems for various machines."
"Two young hackers were intrigued by the Altair, having seen the article in Popular Electronics. They decided on their own that the Altair needed software and took it upon themselves to contact MITS owner Ed Roberts and offer to provide him with a BASIC which would run on the Altair. BASIC (Beginners All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code) had originally been developed in 1963 by Thomas Kurtz and John Kemeny, members of the Dartmouth mathematics department. BASIC was designed to provide an interactive, easy method for upcoming computer scientists to program computers. It allowed the usage of statements such as print "hello" or let b=10. It would be a great boost for the Altair if BASIC were available, so Robert's agreed to pay for it if it worked. The two young hackers worked feverishly and finished just in time to present it to Roberts. It was a success. The two young hackers? They were William Gates and Paul Allen. They later went on to form Microsoft and produce BASIC and operating systems for various machines."
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by CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS - 2006-07-15 |
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» #35 comedy
Analog sticks are not just like joy sticks. Analog is variable whereas joy sticks are on or off.
Also Nintendo wasn't the first to use cartridges. They even made there console out of plastic. Nintendo copied alot of things from consoles before them and so did Sega.
Who cares really as long as it benefits you and me.
Analog sticks are not just like joy sticks. Analog is variable whereas joy sticks are on or off.
Also Nintendo wasn't the first to use cartridges. They even made there console out of plastic. Nintendo copied alot of things from consoles before them and so did Sega.
Who cares really as long as it benefits you and me.
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by ddd (Unregistered) - 2006-07-15 |
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» sony walkman is also infringement of patent
Sony started selling the Walkman in 1979, and in 1980 began negotiating with Mr. Pavel, who was seeking a royalty fee. The company agreed in 1986 to a limited fee arrangement covering sales only in Germany, and then for only a few models.
So in 1989 he began new proceedings, this time in British courts, that dragged on and on, eating up his limited financial resources.
At one point, Mr. Pavel said, he owed his lawyer hundreds of thousands of dollars and was being followed by private detectives and countersued by Sony. "They had frozen all my assets, I couldn't use checks or credit cards," and the outlook for him was grim.
In 1996, the case was dismissed, leaving Mr. Pavel with more than $3 million in court costs to pay.
But he persisted, warning Sony that he would file new suits in every country where he had patented his invention, and in 2003, after another round of negotiations, the company agreed to settle out of court.
Mr. Pavel declined to say how much Sony was obliged to pay him, citing a confidentiality clause. But European press accounts said Mr. Pavel had received a cash settlement for damages in the low eight figures and was now also receiving royalties on some Walkman sales.
THESE days, Mr. Pavel divides his time between Italy and Brazil, and once again considers himself primarily a philosopher. But he is also using some of his money to develop an invention he calls a dreamkit, which he describes as a "hand-held, personal, multimedia, sense-extension device," and to indulge his unflagging interest in music.
Recently, he has been promoting the career of Altamiro Carrilho, a flutist whom he regards as the greatest living Brazilian musician. He is also financing a project that he describes as the complete discography of every record ever released in Brazil.
Some of his friends have suggested he might have a case against the manufacturers of MP3 players, reasoning that those devices are a direct descendant of the Walkman. Mr. Pavel said that while he saw a kinship, he was not eager to take on another long legal battle.
"I have known other inventors in similar predicaments and most of them become that story, which is the most tragic, sad and melancholic thing that can happen," he said. "Somebody becomes a lawsuit, he loses all interest in other things and deals only with the lawsuit. Nobody ever said I was obsessed. I kept my other interests alive, in philosophy and music and literature."
"I didn't have time to pursue them, but now I have reconquered my time," he continued. "So, no, I'm not interested anymore in patents or legal fights or anything like that. I don't want to be reduced to the label of being the inventor of the Walkman."
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/17/international/americas/17pavel.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5088&en=c5f6f6d99731e2a5&ex=1292475600&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
Sony started selling the Walkman in 1979, and in 1980 began negotiating with Mr. Pavel, who was seeking a royalty fee. The company agreed in 1986 to a limited fee arrangement covering sales only in Germany, and then for only a few models.
So in 1989 he began new proceedings, this time in British courts, that dragged on and on, eating up his limited financial resources.
At one point, Mr. Pavel said, he owed his lawyer hundreds of thousands of dollars and was being followed by private detectives and countersued by Sony. "They had frozen all my assets, I couldn't use checks or credit cards," and the outlook for him was grim.
In 1996, the case was dismissed, leaving Mr. Pavel with more than $3 million in court costs to pay.
But he persisted, warning Sony that he would file new suits in every country where he had patented his invention, and in 2003, after another round of negotiations, the company agreed to settle out of court.
Mr. Pavel declined to say how much Sony was obliged to pay him, citing a confidentiality clause. But European press accounts said Mr. Pavel had received a cash settlement for damages in the low eight figures and was now also receiving royalties on some Walkman sales.
THESE days, Mr. Pavel divides his time between Italy and Brazil, and once again considers himself primarily a philosopher. But he is also using some of his money to develop an invention he calls a dreamkit, which he describes as a "hand-held, personal, multimedia, sense-extension device," and to indulge his unflagging interest in music.
Recently, he has been promoting the career of Altamiro Carrilho, a flutist whom he regards as the greatest living Brazilian musician. He is also financing a project that he describes as the complete discography of every record ever released in Brazil.
Some of his friends have suggested he might have a case against the manufacturers of MP3 players, reasoning that those devices are a direct descendant of the Walkman. Mr. Pavel said that while he saw a kinship, he was not eager to take on another long legal battle.
"I have known other inventors in similar predicaments and most of them become that story, which is the most tragic, sad and melancholic thing that can happen," he said. "Somebody becomes a lawsuit, he loses all interest in other things and deals only with the lawsuit. Nobody ever said I was obsessed. I kept my other interests alive, in philosophy and music and literature."
"I didn't have time to pursue them, but now I have reconquered my time," he continued. "So, no, I'm not interested anymore in patents or legal fights or anything like that. I don't want to be reduced to the label of being the inventor of the Walkman."
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/17/international/americas/17pavel.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5088&en=c5f6f6d99731e2a5&ex=1292475600&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
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by sandwiches (Unregistered) - 2006-07-15 |
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» @ddd
I don't think that has anything to do with this case at all.
I don't think that has anything to do with this case at all.
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by beholder (Unregistered) - 2006-07-15 |
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» sony always steal other people's inventions
It's sony style
It's sony style
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by yoghurt (Unregistered) - 2006-07-15 |
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» @41
Your style is clearly retarded.
Your style is clearly retarded.
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by BULL3TPR00F - 2006-07-15 |
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» @PSmonkey
Actually Apple bought it from Xerox, they didn't just take it (I agree, stupid move by Xerox)
As for MS and Apple's DOS. What happened was this:
Once Apple got DOS working and all, and got into adding more things into it, Bill Gates came up with a supposed "plan". He decided to bascailly infiltrate Apple. He went to Steve Jobs, asked him if he could have a job working with him (he some how convinced him, and Steve Jobs agreed). He was hired somewhere in software development and was in charge of making sure there were no bugs or anything in DOS. this is when Gates took DOS home (for supposedly testing it as he was supposed to), and edditted a few codes here and there and slapped MS in front of it. Jobs was extremely stupid for even talking to Gates, and basically screwed himself over, but Gates did steal DOS.
Actually Apple bought it from Xerox, they didn't just take it (I agree, stupid move by Xerox)
As for MS and Apple's DOS. What happened was this:
Once Apple got DOS working and all, and got into adding more things into it, Bill Gates came up with a supposed "plan". He decided to bascailly infiltrate Apple. He went to Steve Jobs, asked him if he could have a job working with him (he some how convinced him, and Steve Jobs agreed). He was hired somewhere in software development and was in charge of making sure there were no bugs or anything in DOS. this is when Gates took DOS home (for supposedly testing it as he was supposed to), and edditted a few codes here and there and slapped MS in front of it. Jobs was extremely stupid for even talking to Gates, and basically screwed himself over, but Gates did steal DOS.
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by Denny Craine (Unregistered) - 2006-07-16 |
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» Denny Craine
I accept! Allen and I will help sony beat these money hungry patent gobblers if it's the last thing we do!
I accept! Allen and I will help sony beat these money hungry patent gobblers if it's the last thing we do!
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by Annie Body (Unregistered) - 2006-07-16 |
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» BULL3TPR00F is right about DOS! Here's proof...
Go to;
www.IBelieveInTheToothFairy.com
Go to;
www.IBelieveInTheToothFairy.com
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by skye wing (Unregistered) - 2006-07-16 |
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» Laff
Why would they want a jury trial, there pissing off most of their customers, but again these are the faults of such huge corporations. Just like the riaa and goverment and even the movie and music coporations, labels.
They forget there customers are us ; ) and we should make them know this.
Why would they want a jury trial, there pissing off most of their customers, but again these are the faults of such huge corporations. Just like the riaa and goverment and even the movie and music coporations, labels.
They forget there customers are us ; ) and we should make them know this.
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by metalspector (Unregistered) - 2006-07-16 |
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» #45
It's true what #43 says , but apple can't dop anything about it now , it's past history , and they did not have proof at that time.
It's true what #43 says , but apple can't dop anything about it now , it's past history , and they did not have proof at that time.
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by ffaldkja - 2006-07-16 |
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» 46
how closed mined are you? they havent forgotten about us the customers. If they did then wed be sitting in stagnant nintendo style technical evolution(look at gb). Sony has pushed the gaming industry to where it is today, ps1 to ps2 was a huge leap. If sony didnt listen to the customers, we wouldnt have the old contoller design back, we wouldnt be using a larger storage medium (more devs but yeah), we wouldnt have harddrives, wireless controllers, and ect standard. They also given us the psp we asked for a more powerful handheld for ages from nintendo and they keep doing minor things to theirs each with flaws (new dslites have cracks froming in at the hinges already). PSP we brick ours with pushing its possibilities but thats our fault. Anyone lose the ability to user ther R shoulder button on their psp yet like on the gba and gbasp? Give sony another 5-10 years in the lead and maybe theyll forget about us. But fro now unlike microsoft that takes our thoughts and tell us their crap then puts them in claiming it their own. Or nintendo rehashing the same franchises, just now coming off their high horse and trying to pull in third party devs after 2 gens, and a slowly evloving gb with flaws in every one so youll by a better one.
I really hope closed mined individuals arnt in the jury when sony is in court with this, along with all the bandwagon sony bashers who convieniently forget what sony has given. nintendo nostalgia aside, microsoft hating aside, they could have done alot more with their consoles but have played it safe almost every time so far.
how closed mined are you? they havent forgotten about us the customers. If they did then wed be sitting in stagnant nintendo style technical evolution(look at gb). Sony has pushed the gaming industry to where it is today, ps1 to ps2 was a huge leap. If sony didnt listen to the customers, we wouldnt have the old contoller design back, we wouldnt be using a larger storage medium (more devs but yeah), we wouldnt have harddrives, wireless controllers, and ect standard. They also given us the psp we asked for a more powerful handheld for ages from nintendo and they keep doing minor things to theirs each with flaws (new dslites have cracks froming in at the hinges already). PSP we brick ours with pushing its possibilities but thats our fault. Anyone lose the ability to user ther R shoulder button on their psp yet like on the gba and gbasp? Give sony another 5-10 years in the lead and maybe theyll forget about us. But fro now unlike microsoft that takes our thoughts and tell us their crap then puts them in claiming it their own. Or nintendo rehashing the same franchises, just now coming off their high horse and trying to pull in third party devs after 2 gens, and a slowly evloving gb with flaws in every one so youll by a better one.
I really hope closed mined individuals arnt in the jury when sony is in court with this, along with all the bandwagon sony bashers who convieniently forget what sony has given. nintendo nostalgia aside, microsoft hating aside, they could have done alot more with their consoles but have played it safe almost every time so far.
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