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I actually swapped my Wii for a PS3, but uh...you can access photo files on Wii too ¬_¬ Small point to make, but hell, I still made it.
i will have a heart attack if mgs4 comes out for chrimbo
This guy actually admitted that Sony was having problems instead of being in denial.
Expecting gamers to buy a console costing 600 dollars... That's why I bought a 360...
Yea, how dare they force people to purchase a product.
Oh wait, its optional. Personally I think Sony expected right. It's not the price that actually keeps people away, it's the lack of games at the moment. If it had more games, itd sell better, $600 or not.
ya Sony admitted they have problems (1st step to recovery) while Microsoft is in denial of their failure rate...while retailers tell us its 30%....so until they tell the truth, it stands as 30%....go ahead...say its not true....your just in denial +]
Well i personally know that if they dropped the price to £359.99 or close in the UK it would dominate the christmas sales easily.
yea..Justin is truly retarded. Its obvious price has alot to do with it. why dont you come down out of your ivory tower and mix it up with the lowly civilians. HA! what a dumbass....
Yeah all sony has to do is drop the price and release games. Then it will sell!
Oh, sony can't afford to do that. Well can sony afford to lose? We'll see...
Have you ever heard of Sony Pictures? How about Sony BMG, the music division? How about the Bravia line of televisions?
Sony can afford to do whatever it wishes! Quit acting like you know what you are talking about! You don't know jack!
"He admits though, that the PS3 has not done well the previous summer months because many game companies chose not to release "big-name games", causing the "boom and bust scenario" the console went through."
Yeah, blame it on other game companies. It wasn't $ony's fault they cared more about blu ray. Sony owns game developers too ya know?
just want to say...
ever since that moron xman showed up i'm starting to appreciate you more...
go on flamin man!!!! hate sony all u want!!! i welcome it!!!!
better the enemy you know than the enemy who's just plain stupid!!!!
Yeah you're right, sony will conquer the christmas market just like they did last year. lol
With up to 3 possible decent games coming out in addition to the 2 in the already killer linup how could they loose?
Until then keep buying those blu ray movies as ordered by your masters at $ony. Buy a PS3 for each member of the family, and for each room of the house too. Then just wait and hope for sony to complete their end of the deal.
380 games are coming out by next year ha ha! Only 5 of those will be exclusive blu ray PS3 games for your region though. Sony would rather lie to you and tell you the some crazy exaggerated number because most PS3 fans are idiots.
Since lying and treating their loyal followers like idiots has worked so far with the blu ray fiasco, it looks like they are going to keep it up. I guess I'm never going to be getting a PS3, since that was the reason I didn't get one (also no games and it's a ripoff.) But if you've got loads of disposable cash overflowing out the pockets like my buddy Quixand, you might as well!
sony fans idiots? ya i agree...course same thing with Microsoft fans... because "their just happy with the xbox 360"...so whats the failure rate? "their just happy with the xbox 360"....ok so no answe, we will assume the failure rate is 30% based on reatailers... good game +]
why the f!ck is every xbox 360 fanboys on a playstation 3 article????
You dont see us goin to the 360 article and talk smack.
Mister common sense, xman, and quixand...
How come at least one of them are on a ps3 article talking smack????
When they unite in one article they annoy.
there just jealous of the ps3.
There mad cause they didnt have 600 dollars to buy them a ps3 and they are trying so hard to defend their Console.
And we ps3 fanboys dont brag as much as 360 fanboys cause we know that every playstation 3 owner could've bought a 360 instead of 360 if we wanted to. you cant say the same about the 360 owner or vice versa.
just get out, and you to ur 360 article and f!ck off!!!!!!!!!
I'm not like this in real life I just get carried away.
I just know sony is full of s*it when they make these promises. Go ahead and enjoy your PS3 and I'll enjoy my 360.
hey rookie you don't know what ur talking about...
calling me an xbox fanboy... i've been defending the ps3 way before you even got the $600 saved up to buy it, even before E3 2005... i've got 3 of the fu*cking console, tons of Blu Ray movies that i already have in DVD, and games in genre which isn't really my preference (shooters, and racing)!!!! so before you talk about me think of the support you're giving the PS3 first... and boy i'm confident urs doesn't measure up to mine!!!
i've been exchanging blows with xbox fans that, tell you honestly, i've gotten to know them and there's respect right there... yes, we flame... but we all know that all of us know better and it's all just a battle of wits...
it is you guys, the rookies, who gets soooo affected it's pathetic.
Mister CS -
Actually i think that that xman is way worse than u are. but you might be both and just trying to raise your name off of the ground.
there are not the same...
the time zones doesn't match... that xman kid posts his comments during day time (based on my time zone) while Common Sense post at night and most of his comment i read when i get back to work the next day (that's why i'm saying that he's probably in America)... so unless Common Sense doesn't sleep they are not the same person.
Hi,
I am sorry for being a ***** in my last post... Bluray rules !!! HD DVD sucks...
My son (xman) is now thining the same as me...
bye
Both suck, for pete's sake you have to be strange to enjoy a high definition movie 5% more than a regular DVD movie! Wow but sony had to include that, lets see how many people actually care (only the sony fanboys since less than 2% of middle class and rich class people combined own a high def television. Wait! my 360 brought high def cables for the games, yet sony couldn't include a 15 dollar cable, thanks a lot sony, but anyways high def still not important, just wanted to add that up. Sony said "the game will have graphics unbeleivable and will rock everyone out or something" well one of my friend has a ps3 (and a 360 btw, noone here would buy a wii, in fact it's rare seeing someone in Puerto Rico with a DS or wii or anything nintendo) and the graphics of resistance and NBA live don't compare to gears of war on the 360! Sony did you lie to your customers? In addition, Sony claims you can watch any movies and listen to any music on the ps3, yet what I see is that some specific files are playable and others don't (think the playable ones are mp4, mpeg, ect.), Sony, don't you know most of us use windows on our computer and have our files as wma? Well the 360 can play more files. Now, one strong way the ps3 sucks is the games. The lineup was weak, and you offer us Killzone 2 while 360 offers us Halo 3. How can Killzone 2 compete with Halo 3 when Halo 2 was the best game ever and Killzone for the ps2 as far as I'm concerned suck, and in case you haven't played it look at the ratings. What about online play? 360 offers me a great interface, all my friends are on xbox live, and awesome downloads, the ps3 offfers laggy online experience, almost no downloads for the ps3 (well it may have a hundred or two but it doesn't compare to the millions of downloads for the 360), and none of my friends play on playstation network. Also, did you hear that when Phil Harrison was asked about what would Sony do to compete against 360's online capabilities Phill Harrison took over 10 seconds thinking saying uhh uhh uhh uhh uhh to then say "I have no comment". Wow that sounds very promising to me (laughs sarcastically). Anyways the PS1 was a great console, so was the ps2 (although I preferred the xbox) but now the ps3 can't compete, Sony don't got the neat software on their side, in fact the only thing Sony has at the moment is the Playstation brand (or name) but I doubt that will work this time.
wow you have internet in Puerto Rico! damn u must be the richest person in that 3rd world country
ur not the real Mister Common Sense. (Unregistered)!!!!!!!!!!1
yeah... ur right.. many people here in Puerto Rico only have the PSP.. only a few kids have DS but to many kids I see have the PSP transfering pictures and everything... but thats now.. not at the beggining... and for the ps3 and wii came a little late and was sell out... but the ps3 is a little failure here... the 360 is what are buying.. and the wii when the supply last... I have the 360 and the ps3 but I like more the media capabilities of the ps3... and love the idea of home... and the games I like most is in the PS3 only... tekken, metal gear, killzone, god of war... so I will stay with I like... but I will be blind if I said the ps3 is perfect... both consoles had pros and cons... so at this stage u cant say wich is better really...
First of all, it's good to let things out of your system so you fell 'oh-so-great' but...hey mentalspector are you sure you live in Puerto Rico? REALLY sure? Because there's LOTS of Wiis and DS's out here. Every time I go to Plaza Las Americas I see kids and people with their DS's, especially on Borders so...I dunno where you really live. Nintendo is pretty common here.
Got 4 friends who have their PS3s and are super happy with it. In fact, they know history is repeating (PS2 and PS slowly developed before becoming popular). So yeah, enjoy your Xbox 360 while it lasts.
Oh and...Sony PS2 cables work with the PS3, I have my PS2 component cable around here and will use that one with the PS3. I prefer that than having to buy a new...for example, S-Video cable for the Xbox 360 because Microsoft chose to change the cables. Oh yeah, try to at least make a darn paragraph to ease reading alright?
Ok for "lool", Puerto Rico is not a 3rd world country. Can you please visit Puerto Rico at least once? And lastly for "Someone_PR", I agree with you, it's still too early to tell which one's really better, it's just a matter of time.
Hey dont talk about my boyfriend Mister Common Sense like that we are Xbox online lovers.
excuse me sir can you get your own alias please and stop useing my name!!! same for the unregistered mr common sense!! anyway to the real mr. common sense!! you need to get your facts right!! we all know that hd-dvd sells better and lookes better aswell!!
can you find your own alias you fake biotch!! same for the fake unregistered mr common sense!! and for the real mr common sense get your facks right hd dvd is winning and it looks better too
HD-DVD deserves to win.
Sony caused the format war by not submitting blu ray to the DVD forum.
To (the real?) Xman + Mister Common Sense: I'm not sure what past century you two are living in, but HD-DVD right now is definitely loosing by all accounts. Especially with the recent Blockbuster Video announcement to push Blu-Ray, HD-DVD is looking more and more like the turkey it is. Xman's "...looks better as well" argument is ridiculous, as both formats are capable of the same audio/video quality. Do you own both, or are you just playing --because I own both and there's no difference. To Mister Common Sense, I suppose you're equally mad at Fox, Disney, and Lionsgate, --since they also didn't support the all-powerful "DVD Forum"? --How exactly did Sony "start the Format War" when it has every studio lined up behind Blu-Ray but one (Universal), which happens to be the sole holdout on the HD-DVD format? Toshiba is the blood-sucker here.
Jak and Daxter? i thought it wasnt coming out as they were making Uncharted, but w00t if it does come out
and I didn't know they were making another crash bandicot game wither?
I went and read the article, the summary above misses a key point on the Jak + Daxter topic, doh! "Titles due to hit the shelves in the Christmas run-up include the latest instalment of favourites such as Grand Theft Auto, Metal Gear Solid, and Drakes: Uncharted Fortune, which is from the same creators as Crash Bandicoot, and Jak and Daxter, he added."
DID ANYONE ELSE NOTICE THT THERES NO FOCUS ON PS2 ?
the freakin thing is selling itself... with new games or without, only console beating it is the wii with all its hype.
sony should put its resources on the PS3... that's the direction it's going, it's called moving forward...
PS2 owners have got no reason to complain either, they can ask the original XBox owners about how lucky they are compaired to those guys... or they can just go and play their Final Fantasy XII or God Of War 2.
you really expect them to give out all their plans? They have to have at least some surprises.
Wii hasn't beat PS2 yet! +D
"...It is unfair to put the Nintendo Wii and PS3 in the same category. The Wii is a sub- £ 200 console and does one thing pretty well. Compare that with a £ 400 piece of hardware that plays next-generation games, allows users to access photo files and has built-in Blu-Ray technology."
Wow. It can display photos and it plays games too!
the wii doesnt play movies...the ps3 does +D, just a pretty big point you missed.
Why would you want a console to play movies?
Why wouldn't I want one thing that can replace three different ones.
One PS3 allows me to move my PC away from my TV. It also replaces my PS2 and offers me an BD player in one machine!
It's kind of circular... The PS3 isn't selling because not many games are being made, yet not many games are being made because the PS3's aren't selling. LOL!
Face it, Blue Ray is an albatross around the neck of the PS3. Most gamer's couldn't give a damn whether the thing plays Blue Ray, HD, or holographic. They want fun games. If the PS3 had come out at $400 American with a standard DVD player, and the basic ver had come out at $300, they would have flown off the shelves. Sony just got stupid. Just like they did with the PSP and the UMDs. And this time, the gaming industry isn't going to be lulled by Sony promises. Why make ANYTHING for an overhyped, overpriced DVD player?
And to the guy who asks "Why wouldn't I want one thing that can replace three different ones." Well, I don't know about you, but I have a PC running Media Center and IF I get a combo drive (HD/Blu Ray... why settle for one or the other?) it'll be PC mounted. I have a Wii, a PS2, and an XBox 360 sitting on the shelf below my 50" DLP 1080i TV. Who cares what format those play, except for delivering me good, fun games? I'll sit there playing Rayman for hours, or maybe Guitar Hero II on my PS2. Those are FUN. Does Sony remember fun? Apparantly not. They're too busy trying to build something to replace the PC. Why? Because they suck at building PCs, and are nearly out of that market? Because they want people to only Buy Sony? Maybe. But it just doesn't work. Sony screwed up on this one. Oh, they'll be fine. But you won't see PS3s fly off the shelf until they're $400 or less. Oh, and one final note: Please show me a single solitary game that makes you want to go out and drop $600. Show me a combination! So far, it's all hype.
"Most gamer's couldn't give a damn whether the thing plays Blue Ray, HD, or holographic."
Really? Then why didn't I buy an XBOX 360? It only plays games and DVD's.
"If the PS3 had come out at $400 American with a standard DVD player, and the basic ver had come out at $300, they would have flown off the shelves"
This is an PS3, not an XBOX 360! It is not priced like an XBOX 360 because it is not an XBOX 360. It's hardware is much more expensive! It is also built like it. My PS3 hasn't been turned off in a month! It just sits there and does what I tell it to. Without ANY problems.
"I have a PC running Media Center and IF I get a combo drive (HD/Blu Ray... why settle for one or the other?) it'll be PC mounted."
Good idea! Do you know how much that combo drive will cost you? How about your video card? Does it support HDMI w/ HDCP? Does anyone use your PC other than you? Mine is used regularly! What do you do then? The same argument always comes from you guys! If I get this.... If I get that.... If I buy a.... The problem with your argument is that I don't have to buy ANYHING ELSE AT ALL! I already have what I need!
"Oh, and one final note: Please show me a single solitary game that makes you want to go out and drop $600."
I did not buy my PS3 for ANY SINGLE GAME! That would actually be a stupid thing to do. I bought my PS3 for it's combination of features and hardware. I dropped $600 because I can and because I wanted to. For all of you that think the PS3 will fail, keep dreaming. More games will come and this console will not fail. Keep making you "BD is stupid" comments. When BD takes the prize as the winning next-gen movie format it won't look so stupid!
The main difference between you and I is that I want my console to do more than just play games. The stupidest thing about these fanboy arguments is that the XBOTS do not understand that the consumers that buy an PS3 and those that buy an XBOX 360 are looking for different things in a console. Stop trying to convince a DIFFERENT group of consumers than yourself that we made a mistake. We didn't and neither did you! We bought what we wanted to!
hey guys,
I work at JB-Hifi in Australia I have sold a lot more PS3's than x360's since release of the PS3.
But that only counts at one store... Not much, I know!!
It just seems that people are just wanting something else than x360 or are just waiting for the x360 Elite (being not released in AUS yet)...
And if anyone wants to know, I haven't had a single PS3 back. The only problems people were having were with the backwards compatible list.
By my thoughts, Sony has made some bad moves by being all about HD and yet not including a HDMI cable or even component but at least I can honestly say that the hardware is of better quality build then the X360's.
So many times customers have returned with faulty machines and its not just one cause, its multiple. Hard drive failing, DVD drive not reading, DVD scratches discs, error after errors appearing... And then the call center of Microsoft!! (I have to deal with them everyday)
Flame you all want, but for those of you who haven't even worked with games or in retail in general have no idea of the ***** some companies put you through...
stop blaiming every1 else and get some work done on ur games.
i don't like the wii it's not my thing but i don't like how sony keeps telling us its a novelty product.
some gd exclusive plz or u won't b getting my money this crimbo
This comment is for those who do not own a ps3 and are looking to buy one.Be advised I have all the next gen systems.
The ps3 is truly the system to get.If you would analyze everything you get for $625 including tax you would really appreciate what sony has done with this system.Blue ray=$900.psone=$50.ps2=$129.99.ps3system next gen=cell technology(4 years $400 million dollars for IBM and sony to develop).WiFi included.Bluetooth included.Sixaxis controller=$50.Supports all dvd formats and upscales them.Supports all cd formats.Is accessable with the psp.Free internet access.Assisting with cancer research=priceless.Compatible with several types of memory cards.Usb connection.Hard drive.I also might note that the system uses the latest technology for all its buttons and internals.The system has hardly any hardware defects yet to be reported.The actual price of the system has been noted to be $850.If you look at these numbers and do the math you can see the ps3 is well worth it and still has lots of untapped power that true developers can notice and are willing to sacrifice some time to learn and appreciate the true future of gaming.The ps3 is all you need in your living room.I love 360 as well but when it comes to what you are actually getting the 360 would come out to be around $860 if you were to include said items the ps3 has.
I usually don't post but I just had to say that you, sir, are an idiot.
I just wanted to say to you F.U.C.K you and your piece of s.h.i.t brain.
Im pretty sick and tired of reading so called Common Sense's posts. They are full of nothing but garbage that completely defies the facts.
Perhaps you get some sort of pleasure out of defending your failing pride and joy?
Need I mention the lackluster performance of the 360 in Japan and Europe. It's only doing somewhat well in the U.S. because M$ practically owns the place.
That, and you have to consider the *****ty hardware issues that 360 owners have to go through. I know of a close freind who recently had to send his brand new 360 in because the disc tray would not open. They sent him a refurbished system that overheats all the time now, and they refuse to send him back the game disc he left in his old one.
I could go on, but I will give you a chance to allow me more ammo to use.
Every thing you said is right.
Mr common sense, xman, and quianad( or whatever your name is)Funk you!!!!!!!
Dumb b!tches
I've never had a problem with mine, but there are overheating problems with some of them. There also seems to be some disc poblems, but these don't seem very widespread. If a disc was stuck in the XBOX, I don't know why you wouldn't pry it out, because it would probably be damaged just by shipping. If it was a MS made disc they could probably replace it. Just keep complaining they usually give in after a while. If the new XBOX overheats it is broken or just gets too hot what?
I took my 360 apart to install an XCM fan upgrade and thermometer and some Arctic silver 5 thermal compound under the heatsinks. I also removed the top RF shielding, which reduced the temperature of my 360 by quite a bit. Whole upgrade cost $70. Any potential overheating problems solved. I've never had any problems with the disc drive, and replacements can be bought for $50 on e-bay. If you know what you're doing, it's a very serviceable system.
Also, who cares about lackluster sales in Japan, the PS3 is hurting in sales everywhere.
I never had to mod mine its just never failed me!! but i have a friend that been through 2 ps3s!!
...... is a lying punk! You don't know anyone with a PS3 problem!
hahahhahahahhahahahhaha I read about 10% of this and couldn't take it any more ahahahhahahahhaha Rember kids Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics................................
Even if you win you'r still retarded
You win the prize for best and funniest comment!
Mr. Common Sense..... why? Isnt it getting old now? I used to post "DAX sucks at developing" on the PSP side just to annoy people.... it got old after a few days. But you just wont give up.
Even if your not just doing this for laughs then you are the one who doesnt know what your talking about. Most of the things you say ARE actually lies. (im not gonna discuss them) Sony is a big boy. Im pretty sure they know what they are doing, just like MS, and Nintendo. Sony will be on top, I guarentee that.
original xbox has about 4 games coming out, gamecube has 2, ps2 has like 20 and its LAST gen!
Btw ps3 has more games coming this summer, and i know your gonna say "they were all on xbox anyways" but your wrong! only 2 - 3 games were already released on 360 anyways.
(PS3 also has more confirmed games this YEAR, than wii, or 360)
It will be close....
how the hell does sony plan on conquering christmas!! all M$ has to do is drop the price and drop halo and its over for sony!!
Well i have to add that the *****ing processor of the x360 is a
"scrath and remended version of the CELL" before flaming take the facts that IBM received a request by M$ for a cpu just one year before its launch. And they are working on CELL
after the launch of the PS2. so the guys have a "state-of art" design that they dont have permission of its partner ($ony) to use for someone else, but they have some drafts that could be used. Then we arrive at the Xenon 3 core cpu.
And these same guys in IBM are developing tools for their new multi-core processors in the Linux Kernel. And in the case of CELL we have some fantastic tools made by $ony
the thing is if you develop only thinking in one "scrath" platform like the 360 (its GPU is the only real good thing)
but the rest in 360 is a ps2/xbox like platform. because the embedded 10mb video ram with AA and all is the same tha ps2 have but for HD and obviusly improved with effects.
But in the past that same arquitecture of the ps2 for the M$ marketers is ***** and all...
But in the 360 they are using this arquitecture(a fast but small memory that can do beauty things but have to be precisely controlled).
I´am a developer and computer arquitecture intusiast so i prefer the CELL. but i know that i will take time to get used
to. in the same time i know that the 360 is the same lame job of "new Thread" and the system control the thing for me.
Actually because we hit a wall in the computer that make we go multi core in all genres and systems we have to learn a new paradigm and the only system that live this new paradigm and is not only a "hybrid" with strange things attached is the CELL. Because in PC world a quad core is only useful if the OS and your application is redesigned to work using the 4 cores if not them you think you have a better machine but you not using them and the worse you paid for it. You are a lame and lazy person who base your decision on what are marketed or easy. Or you take what are inside you to hardly make a decision on what for you is the best.
Only thing that have to be shared is the best game experience you reached and with console you have not really matters because everyone have different ways of liking the same thing.
PS. Gears of war is amazing and I have a x360, i will buy a PS3 soon i save the money because well the price is higher but waiting a month to save the money not really a problem. I played the wii in my friends house and not really want one.
IF someone really care about what developers want is really only $$$ and if im paid to tell that i prefer something sure i do.
Remembered that there are people who think about x360 2 well im pretty sure no cpu in the future could beat CELL in price/performance (only and the intel laugh with its CORE DUO that prices at 9 and lose to CELL)so probably IBM dont have other thing besides CELL to sell in the future for this class of application. and intel or amd not really could beat the CELL in the same aspects so M$ will be in trouble for the next generation.
hello
im stupid
MS screws a lot of ppl just so fo u guys saying sony screw ppl. Does ne one remember WIndows Millenium the *****y program that ms threw out so ppl wud buy there product and then by xp 2 years later. The same thing goes for vista there doin the same exact *****. BTW I own both consoles
I hope they make all games BC in PAL regions.
if you geys havent noticed, microsoft is losing money in other markets, like vista and the zune. As a matter of fact, i dont know about anyone that has a zune
if you guys havent noticed, microsoft is losing money in other markets, like vista and the zune. As a matter of fact, i dont know about anyone that has a zune
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