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There will be retribution! Pirates, have a heart! Online cheaters, beware! So whatever happened during the dev chat scheduled a few days ago for Resistance: Retribution? Well, most of it had generic questions from the fans: talk of Infected Mode and whether it's actually part of story canon (watch the ending!), plans for DLC (none!), PSP-to-PS3 connectivity, and other matters. Here are a couple interesting exchanges between the fans and the devs (namely John Garvin and Chris Reese) at Sony Bend. The first has someone asking about how piracy affects them, while the second one has someone asking about the people who've been cheating online: [Comment From KingsoraBe] It really hurts me to see awesome PSP games selling bad because of piracy. What do you guys think about that your games get downloaded. Does it hurt when you see people talking about a downloader version of your game. Because even as a gamer I really hate it that people play the game in this way. John Garvin: King: I wish pirates / players understood how much they were hurting developers on the PSP. If a dev can't make money on a platform, they won't put money into the games. For every game they pirate -- especially if it's a game they *finish* and had fun with and a game they go online with -- it hurts our ability to make a similar game next time. [Comment From muhu] What are you going to do with those who cheat online? I've grown tired of encountering them in every other match I play. Chris Reese: We are actively looking into the online cheating and logging information on the cheaters. There will be Retribution! Take note that this dev chat happened the other day, right after Retribution just got released. And even at that time, the devs already knew about the online cheaters. If you happen to be one of them, beware, beware, beware! Related articles:
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by SpongeFreak52 - 2009-03-20 |
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» Bleh.
Well maybe you shouldn't create a game in which people can cheat, eh?
Well maybe you shouldn't create a game in which people can cheat, eh?
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Re: Techni - 2009-03-20 |
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» Not possible.
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Re: SpongeFreak52 - 2009-03-20 |
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» O rly?
Well neither is making a Toaster Strudel which is warm on the inside and outside.
And that was a semi-sarcastic statement. Of course there will always be exploits, etc. I'm just saying there really isn't much a company can do to prevent these kinda things altogether.
Well neither is making a Toaster Strudel which is warm on the inside and outside.
And that was a semi-sarcastic statement. Of course there will always be exploits, etc. I'm just saying there really isn't much a company can do to prevent these kinda things altogether.
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Re: WiiRolled - 2009-03-20 |
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» But
All devs develop their games to run on official firmwares.
I think most devs don't know what is possible with a CFW (asides pirating games).
That may be the reason why many developers don't integrate anti-cheating measures in their games.
I'm sure this will become more important in the future.
All devs develop their games to run on official firmwares.
I think most devs don't know what is possible with a CFW (asides pirating games).
That may be the reason why many developers don't integrate anti-cheating measures in their games.
I'm sure this will become more important in the future.
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Re: papajag - 2009-03-20 |
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» dude...
When you start cheating on an online game that's when you know that you suck. People that cheat make excuses like "ohh the game is boring". Umm it's not boring it's because they suck.
There will probably be a way to get cheat out of gaming. Look at the 360 and PS3. But as for the PSP it's way too late.
When you start cheating on an online game that's when you know that you suck. People that cheat make excuses like "ohh the game is boring". Umm it's not boring it's because they suck.
There will probably be a way to get cheat out of gaming. Look at the 360 and PS3. But as for the PSP it's way too late.
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by Ryu - 2009-03-20 |
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» this can stop some of the cheating
the dev that make the cheating apps, like cwcheat(the cheatcode core part)
set the app to NOT work when the wifi switch is on
the dev that make the cheating apps, like cwcheat(the cheatcode core part)
set the app to NOT work when the wifi switch is on
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Re: MisterAV - 2009-03-20 |
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» ...
then will come another dev that crack cwcheat to rehabilitate that...
then will come another dev that crack cwcheat to rehabilitate that...
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Re: shadowneji - 2009-03-20 |
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» cwcheats
i pass da game den i play hard with it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v+YV_hMVuCzM4
i pass da game den i play hard with it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v+YV_hMVuCzM4
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Re: DrWho1980 - 2009-03-21 |
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» what about offline multiplayer games?
ok.. you want a cwcheat that doesn't work with the wifi turned on?... then you wouldn't be able to use it in multi player games either.
ok.. you want a cwcheat that doesn't work with the wifi turned on?... then you wouldn't be able to use it in multi player games either.
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Re: NakedFaerie - 2009-03-22 |
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» LOL
I have it set to the exact opposite. cwcheat only works with wifi switch is on. LOL
Its like stopping piracey, you cant. it will always be there for one reason or another.
The main reasons I see are:
1, price (make it cheaper and there will be more buyers)
2, availability (worldwide releases will let people buy it before its available to download)
3, quality (make games worth buying)
4, NO COPY PROTECTION. (its a goal to crack games, if it doesnt need to be cracked there is no joy in it. Cracked games are easier to install/reinstall/play EG: NOCD patches)
Till those are all met there will always be piracey.
I have it set to the exact opposite. cwcheat only works with wifi switch is on. LOL
Its like stopping piracey, you cant. it will always be there for one reason or another.
The main reasons I see are:
1, price (make it cheaper and there will be more buyers)
2, availability (worldwide releases will let people buy it before its available to download)
3, quality (make games worth buying)
4, NO COPY PROTECTION. (its a goal to crack games, if it doesnt need to be cracked there is no joy in it. Cracked games are easier to install/reinstall/play EG: NOCD patches)
Till those are all met there will always be piracey.
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by papajag - 2009-03-20 |
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» ...
F*** now I feel bad. They do have a point. This is the reason why I bought all the God of War series including the PSP. Now both the PSP and DS lost it's edge for me. I'm really becoming more of a console gamer rather than hand held unlike in middle school. But to those that actually love the games pls buy them. What the hell am I saying they won't ever listen anyways.
F*** now I feel bad. They do have a point. This is the reason why I bought all the God of War series including the PSP. Now both the PSP and DS lost it's edge for me. I'm really becoming more of a console gamer rather than hand held unlike in middle school. But to those that actually love the games pls buy them. What the hell am I saying they won't ever listen anyways.
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by WiiRolled - 2009-03-20 |
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» ...
then I will come and say "Don't make it open-source" and everyonee will be happy
then I will come and say "Don't make it open-source" and everyonee will be happy
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by whitecloud - 2009-03-20 |
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» no custom psp's
as good as cfw is for the homebrew (pmplayer
as good as cfw is for the homebrew (pmplayer
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by hush404 - 2009-03-20 |
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» down with pirates
I've always bought my games, every PSP game I have is paid for and I will continue to do so. I think it's awesome that I can run emulators a plenty and old PC games like doom, quake and such on a hacked PSP - but really, I don't agree with pirating the games that are attainable right now.
Can you imagine where we'd be if the NES was as easily hacked and all you had to do was flash a $2 cartridge to get what ever game you wanted? We'd be with out games.
I've always bought my games, every PSP game I have is paid for and I will continue to do so. I think it's awesome that I can run emulators a plenty and old PC games like doom, quake and such on a hacked PSP - but really, I don't agree with pirating the games that are attainable right now.
Can you imagine where we'd be if the NES was as easily hacked and all you had to do was flash a $2 cartridge to get what ever game you wanted? We'd be with out games.
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Re: DrWho1980 - 2009-03-21 |
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» Not Pro or against Piracy, but you are wrong.
Not to talk pro or against pirating but you are wrong though.
NES didn't become popular because there games couldn't be copied. And they weren't popular because they had better hardware.
NES had pirated games, and a lot actually. And NES had inferior hardware compared to other consoles of that generation. The main reason why NES became so popular is because NES was released a bit earlier and Nintendo only licenced games that were only being released on the NES. Since many people already owned a NES before other companies released there consoles (mainly SEGA), third party devs made there games for the NES. As a result there were very little third party games released for other consoles and because of this shortage of games the NES became even more popular.
Another thing where you are wrong is that Atari 2600, NES, PSX, Commodore 64 and Commodore Amiga were all very popular computers/consoles. What do they have in common? They all had a big market for piracy.
Not to talk pro or against pirating but you are wrong though.
NES didn't become popular because there games couldn't be copied. And they weren't popular because they had better hardware.
NES had pirated games, and a lot actually. And NES had inferior hardware compared to other consoles of that generation. The main reason why NES became so popular is because NES was released a bit earlier and Nintendo only licenced games that were only being released on the NES. Since many people already owned a NES before other companies released there consoles (mainly SEGA), third party devs made there games for the NES. As a result there were very little third party games released for other consoles and because of this shortage of games the NES became even more popular.
Another thing where you are wrong is that Atari 2600, NES, PSX, Commodore 64 and Commodore Amiga were all very popular computers/consoles. What do they have in common? They all had a big market for piracy.
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Re: sirgrinalot - 2009-03-21 |
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» Yep
I totally agree, I can't even imagine a world without super mario.
I totally agree, I can't even imagine a world without super mario.
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by zainex78 - 2009-03-20 |
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» Hax
I really hope the PS3 won't be hacked in the same manor of the PSP.
I don't mind if we get the ability play emulators and homebrew, but I just hope there won't be ability to play PS3 backups.
And As much as I respect and love what Dark_Alex has given us, I hope for the PSP2 (If he's still around and possible) will not exploit ripping/download retail games for free.
I really hope the PS3 won't be hacked in the same manor of the PSP.
I don't mind if we get the ability play emulators and homebrew, but I just hope there won't be ability to play PS3 backups.
And As much as I respect and love what Dark_Alex has given us, I hope for the PSP2 (If he's still around and possible) will not exploit ripping/download retail games for free.
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Re: DrWho1980 - 2009-03-21 |
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» think twice
to be honest, PS3 could use a market for piracy :/ the way they are doing now the console is not popular enough to survive. It is a great machine... yet its dying. Piracy would boost its popularity. People who would pirate it won't buy one now anyway. When more machines are sold even the pirates would buy a game once in a while.
BTW, why do you think the PS3 is still so expensive? because SONY didn't reach the breaking point yet to cover there cost for the development. Consoles bought by pirates would certainly help there.
I know everyone will vote against this post :P but its the truth. And if you think about it then you should decide... you want a console that hasn't been hacked or pirated but dies because it isn't sold enough?
to be honest, PS3 could use a market for piracy :/ the way they are doing now the console is not popular enough to survive. It is a great machine... yet its dying. Piracy would boost its popularity. People who would pirate it won't buy one now anyway. When more machines are sold even the pirates would buy a game once in a while.
BTW, why do you think the PS3 is still so expensive? because SONY didn't reach the breaking point yet to cover there cost for the development. Consoles bought by pirates would certainly help there.
I know everyone will vote against this post :P but its the truth. And if you think about it then you should decide... you want a console that hasn't been hacked or pirated but dies because it isn't sold enough?
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Re: Anhmeister - 2009-03-21 |
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» Uh...
Personally I think that piracy would kill the PS3. Think about it, Sony is currently losing quite a bit of money on each console they sell. They are making their money on software. If people could pirate games for the PS3, do you really think that it would help the PS3? I think that Homebrew would be the PS3's saving grace. If Sony somehow thought of a way to enable people to create homebrew using all of the PS3's power, I could see a huge increase is sales.
Personally I think that piracy would kill the PS3. Think about it, Sony is currently losing quite a bit of money on each console they sell. They are making their money on software. If people could pirate games for the PS3, do you really think that it would help the PS3? I think that Homebrew would be the PS3's saving grace. If Sony somehow thought of a way to enable people to create homebrew using all of the PS3's power, I could see a huge increase is sales.
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Re: Aces In The Palm - 2009-03-23 |
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» @DrWho
how is the PS3 dying?
its catching to 360 in sales
and the 360 has been hacked
you talk out of your arse
i think dark_alex should still let us rip our games.
but make the game only playable on the psp it was ripped onto.
memstick is alot quicker than UMD.
crawl back into tardis and disappear
how is the PS3 dying?
its catching to 360 in sales
and the 360 has been hacked
you talk out of your arse
i think dark_alex should still let us rip our games.
but make the game only playable on the psp it was ripped onto.
memstick is alot quicker than UMD.
crawl back into tardis and disappear
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Re: ElfyEikkal - 2009-03-24 |
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» actually.
i heard it is true. game piracy actually helps boosting sales. look what PS2 become? 140MILLION consoles sold. +) part of it is thanks to piracy. +)
i heard it is true. game piracy actually helps boosting sales. look what PS2 become? 140MILLION consoles sold. +) part of it is thanks to piracy. +)
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by DarkXCloud - 2009-03-20 |
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» .
I never like using my cheats online because it makes it really boring. People kick you out and you would have to keep entering games.
All cheaters oughta be Disconnected whenever it's detected.
I never like using my cheats online because it makes it really boring. People kick you out and you would have to keep entering games.
All cheaters oughta be Disconnected whenever it's detected.
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by ZeroBinary - 2009-03-20 |
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» Did any of you stop to think...
Did any of you really stop to think that regardless of whether you buy your games, buy them used, or try before you buy to see if you'll like it, the underlying fact of the matter will always take you back to the same gray area as before this whole discussion started.
The truth of the matter is that games have been, will always be, and continue to be pirated regardless of what any one individuals' viewpoints are. The only real way to stop piracy effectively enough would be to stop developing the games you all love to play on your home or hand held consoles, and just where would that leave us consumers then ? Do you think that the people who pirate games would give a care in the world edge wise ? No, they would just continue to find something else to pirate.
While some so-called-honest John's out there claim that they buy all there games, the truth of the matter is that a good percent of you can not be bothered to buy every possible game that you desire to have simply because a certain game does not fall within your budget of what you can afford, or you wait until it becomes a previously played or used game.
So what happens next is that you either buy one over priced game cause you heard so much about it, and it looks really cool enough to play, then you take it home, play it until you beat it, and gradually become bored of it because of the lack of replay value, so then you go ahead and sell it, and look for another game to buy and play.
Then, there are the pirates who pirate a game, and just about any other available medium and form of data that can easily be accessed by a simple download.
From a realistic standpoint, only a small number of you Honest John's out there buy your games, but a vast majority of you will pirate and play games on your software or hardware modified game consoles and handhelds just for the sake of avoiding the high price of a paid for game.
Here is another ounce of truth to add to the equation: Regardless of who owns a modified game console or handheld to play backups or pirated games on, companies will try to develop anti-hack and crack protection against such measures taken from hackers that would allow others to freely play backups.
The next thing that happens in this scenario, is something that I'm sure a lot of you out there are fully aware of, that no matter how strong a copy protection encryption on something is, someone somewhere who is skilled enough to do so will find a way to break it and expose it.
So the cycle continues, and never ceases.
The only real way to break that cycle would be to take all the medium that we have in this world, and instead of companies trying to effortlessly develop new ways to protect their properties and the games that they develop, they would instead need to concentrate all their efforts into just stopping further development for all your beloved consoles and handhelds. That would be the most effective way to discourage further pirating.
Yet, some of us, just like the companies out there who produce all this media for your entertainment choose to turn a blind eye towards this flawed system of ours, and the thinkers who are separated from the doers will not collaborate to work together, but will instead choose to slap whomever they can with a lawsuit in hopes that it will prevent and discourage further pirating but to no or little avail.
And still.. the cycle will continue to go on and grow.
Ask yourselves this one question that will really blow your minds:
If companies who make the hardware that is capable of running, recording, and playing back whatever medium you choose to play on it, and they also develop and support their own hardware by giving consumers the ability to store recorded data on recordable media and internal hard drives, are they not themselves collectively granting you the right and reserve with some limitations to do whatever it is you wish to do as a consumer who has bought one of their products ?
Aha... you may all say in awe... I never thought of it that way before.
Needless to say, all
Did any of you really stop to think that regardless of whether you buy your games, buy them used, or try before you buy to see if you'll like it, the underlying fact of the matter will always take you back to the same gray area as before this whole discussion started.
The truth of the matter is that games have been, will always be, and continue to be pirated regardless of what any one individuals' viewpoints are. The only real way to stop piracy effectively enough would be to stop developing the games you all love to play on your home or hand held consoles, and just where would that leave us consumers then ? Do you think that the people who pirate games would give a care in the world edge wise ? No, they would just continue to find something else to pirate.
While some so-called-honest John's out there claim that they buy all there games, the truth of the matter is that a good percent of you can not be bothered to buy every possible game that you desire to have simply because a certain game does not fall within your budget of what you can afford, or you wait until it becomes a previously played or used game.
So what happens next is that you either buy one over priced game cause you heard so much about it, and it looks really cool enough to play, then you take it home, play it until you beat it, and gradually become bored of it because of the lack of replay value, so then you go ahead and sell it, and look for another game to buy and play.
Then, there are the pirates who pirate a game, and just about any other available medium and form of data that can easily be accessed by a simple download.
From a realistic standpoint, only a small number of you Honest John's out there buy your games, but a vast majority of you will pirate and play games on your software or hardware modified game consoles and handhelds just for the sake of avoiding the high price of a paid for game.
Here is another ounce of truth to add to the equation: Regardless of who owns a modified game console or handheld to play backups or pirated games on, companies will try to develop anti-hack and crack protection against such measures taken from hackers that would allow others to freely play backups.
The next thing that happens in this scenario, is something that I'm sure a lot of you out there are fully aware of, that no matter how strong a copy protection encryption on something is, someone somewhere who is skilled enough to do so will find a way to break it and expose it.
So the cycle continues, and never ceases.
The only real way to break that cycle would be to take all the medium that we have in this world, and instead of companies trying to effortlessly develop new ways to protect their properties and the games that they develop, they would instead need to concentrate all their efforts into just stopping further development for all your beloved consoles and handhelds. That would be the most effective way to discourage further pirating.
Yet, some of us, just like the companies out there who produce all this media for your entertainment choose to turn a blind eye towards this flawed system of ours, and the thinkers who are separated from the doers will not collaborate to work together, but will instead choose to slap whomever they can with a lawsuit in hopes that it will prevent and discourage further pirating but to no or little avail.
And still.. the cycle will continue to go on and grow.
Ask yourselves this one question that will really blow your minds:
If companies who make the hardware that is capable of running, recording, and playing back whatever medium you choose to play on it, and they also develop and support their own hardware by giving consumers the ability to store recorded data on recordable media and internal hard drives, are they not themselves collectively granting you the right and reserve with some limitations to do whatever it is you wish to do as a consumer who has bought one of their products ?
Aha... you may all say in awe... I never thought of it that way before.
Needless to say, all
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Re: fearlubu - 2009-03-20 |
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» *Stares at wall of text*
wow, not going to read that, but I will say that the PSP 3000 is doing a fine job of slowing down piracy...but i think they will, eventually...
anyways, I will admit that I do pirate games, but i only pirate those that i wouldnt buy...except for Crisis Core....I wish I hadnt...but come on, the ISO came out like 6 days before its release date!
But all in all, I hope sony finds a way to stop (or slow it down....alot) piracy...and attract more kids....
wow, not going to read that, but I will say that the PSP 3000 is doing a fine job of slowing down piracy...but i think they will, eventually...
anyways, I will admit that I do pirate games, but i only pirate those that i wouldnt buy...except for Crisis Core....I wish I hadnt...but come on, the ISO came out like 6 days before its release date!
But all in all, I hope sony finds a way to stop (or slow it down....alot) piracy...and attract more kids....
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Re: arishay - 2009-03-21 |
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» Do you really...
...think that you need to type that much bull***** to get a small point across that matters to nobody? Let me sum it up for you with my new product called nubnotes. You said ...basically all that garbage up there, and it all means "LOLZ Teh ghemz still sell gud but teh piritz will hax0r all teh time neways>>!!" You are the reason the internet is congested.
...think that you need to type that much bull***** to get a small point across that matters to nobody? Let me sum it up for you with my new product called nubnotes. You said ...basically all that garbage up there, and it all means "LOLZ Teh ghemz still sell gud but teh piritz will hax0r all teh time neways>>!!" You are the reason the internet is congested.
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Re: ptspyder - 2009-03-21 |
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» DUDE...
SHUT UP. If you cant make your point in a paragraph or less, get off the internet.
SHUT UP. If you cant make your point in a paragraph or less, get off the internet.
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Re: Aces In The Palm - 2009-03-23 |
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» whoa
the great wall of china has been graffitti'd all over
so much text...so little facts
a small number of honest john's
and a lot of pirates
think about it
you're saying noone pays except for a select few
thats moronic
there would be no industry IDIOT!!!
in truth
only a small percentage of people pirate or even have the capacity to pirate
the majority of people are "honest johns"
do some research before you spew walls of pointless text next time
the great wall of china has been graffitti'd all over
so much text...so little facts
a small number of honest john's
and a lot of pirates
think about it
you're saying noone pays except for a select few
thats moronic
there would be no industry IDIOT!!!
in truth
only a small percentage of people pirate or even have the capacity to pirate
the majority of people are "honest johns"
do some research before you spew walls of pointless text next time
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by ZeroBinary - 2009-03-20 |
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» Life Can Be Hard...
Life can be hard but it is one of the greatest teachers you will ever come to know.
Life can be hard but it is one of the greatest teachers you will ever come to know.
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by Murderface - 2009-03-20 |
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» About banning cheaters
I'm shivering in my boots... Look at how many times socom's been patched. Or even PC games such as Warrock.
When it comes down to it, you can't stop people from ram hacking. Period. All they can do, is make it harder for them, and for that, blame sony bend studios for half-assing the job, and making the game a graphic patch of Syphon Filter. Had it at least been a new game,built on a different engine, it would have been harder to make cheats.
I'm shivering in my boots... Look at how many times socom's been patched. Or even PC games such as Warrock.
When it comes down to it, you can't stop people from ram hacking. Period. All they can do, is make it harder for them, and for that, blame sony bend studios for half-assing the job, and making the game a graphic patch of Syphon Filter. Had it at least been a new game,built on a different engine, it would have been harder to make cheats.
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Re: pewpie - 2009-03-20 |
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» nubclub
first sensible thing ive read on this entire page
first sensible thing ive read on this entire page
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Re: TheLastGuitarHero - 2009-03-20 |
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» ...
"I'm shivering in my boots because I'm so awesome I know how to cheat, and your idle threats don't scare my awesome-self. I'm great." No one cares kid, you're nothing special.
"I'm shivering in my boots because I'm so awesome I know how to cheat, and your idle threats don't scare my awesome-self. I'm great." No one cares kid, you're nothing special.
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Re: DrWho1980 - 2009-03-21 |
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» selfish
agreed with the fact that the devs should have expected cheaters. But I don't agree on cheating online.
I'm not an online gamer so you don't hurt me... but you ruin the game for those who do play online when you cheat.
Sure... you might have fun while cheating, but for others you take the fun away. So in the end the truth is that you are being selfish because for the fun of 1 person you take away the fun of a dozen others
agreed with the fact that the devs should have expected cheaters. But I don't agree on cheating online.
I'm not an online gamer so you don't hurt me... but you ruin the game for those who do play online when you cheat.
Sure... you might have fun while cheating, but for others you take the fun away. So in the end the truth is that you are being selfish because for the fun of 1 person you take away the fun of a dozen others
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Re: arishay - 2009-03-21 |
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» This isn't true at all
You are maybe like ...oh I don't know 0% correct on this. Ram hacking is for script kiddies, and let's be honest with ourselves here...if you still do this then you never really got over Oregon Trail. Congrats you nubcake, everyone in your party got sick and the cattle drowned in a river. "UGH I hahtz tis ghem! I will RAM HAX it so ehm teh winnar!"
You are maybe like ...oh I don't know 0% correct on this. Ram hacking is for script kiddies, and let's be honest with ourselves here...if you still do this then you never really got over Oregon Trail. Congrats you nubcake, everyone in your party got sick and the cattle drowned in a river. "UGH I hahtz tis ghem! I will RAM HAX it so ehm teh winnar!"
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Re: Murderface - 2009-03-21 |
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» ^arishay
....ok... erm first of all, script kiddies? Gross misuse of the term.
Oregon trail? Seriously? Haven't played that since like 2nd grade :/ Boring as ***
Perhaps you really do know nothing about ram hacking.... Some stuff's easy, other well... Is a bit more complicated and requires you to know some programming.
I actually am not a big fan of online hacking, especially when it's used to boost stat at a game you suck at. Yet again, people have lumped all cheaters into one sterotype, thinking all are alike. I admit, I've used cheats online, but not because I actually need them to win, I'm not saying I'm a super-pro gamer, but I don't suck @ the games either. Most of the time, I use them: A) because there is another hacker in the room, which is making the whole game unfair already. B) I'm in the middle of making a code, or C) Certian players are becoming irritating in the game, hacking usually makes them leave.
But then again, I'm not saying all hackers/cheater are like this, that's just me. I actually tried to convince a few of the other codemakers for RR not to release anything, but well, they did anyway. Oh well. If you don't like it, play offline, or switch to a better system that doesn't have so many hackers.
Fact is, it is what it is, some people use hacks for "fun" others go overboard with it. It's life.
....ok... erm first of all, script kiddies? Gross misuse of the term.
Oregon trail? Seriously? Haven't played that since like 2nd grade :/ Boring as ***
Perhaps you really do know nothing about ram hacking.... Some stuff's easy, other well... Is a bit more complicated and requires you to know some programming.
I actually am not a big fan of online hacking, especially when it's used to boost stat at a game you suck at. Yet again, people have lumped all cheaters into one sterotype, thinking all are alike. I admit, I've used cheats online, but not because I actually need them to win, I'm not saying I'm a super-pro gamer, but I don't suck @ the games either. Most of the time, I use them: A) because there is another hacker in the room, which is making the whole game unfair already. B) I'm in the middle of making a code, or C) Certian players are becoming irritating in the game, hacking usually makes them leave.
But then again, I'm not saying all hackers/cheater are like this, that's just me. I actually tried to convince a few of the other codemakers for RR not to release anything, but well, they did anyway. Oh well. If you don't like it, play offline, or switch to a better system that doesn't have so many hackers.
Fact is, it is what it is, some people use hacks for "fun" others go overboard with it. It's life.
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by yourmistakes - 2009-03-20 |
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» they could
temporarily ban (or permanently) people caught cheating in online games. have a police type program on the server to detect abnormalities in the game, then watch suspicious players. msn gaming zone used to ban players back in the day for cheating. on mechwarrior 3 i got caught using an infinite jump cheat and was banned for a week. haven't cheated since.
the downside to this setup is that you have to have dedicated servers (should anyway), which drives up the cost of games.
temporarily ban (or permanently) people caught cheating in online games. have a police type program on the server to detect abnormalities in the game, then watch suspicious players. msn gaming zone used to ban players back in the day for cheating. on mechwarrior 3 i got caught using an infinite jump cheat and was banned for a week. haven't cheated since.
the downside to this setup is that you have to have dedicated servers (should anyway), which drives up the cost of games.
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Re: Murderface - 2009-03-21 |
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» True...
*ignores random trolls* Actually, I agree yourmistakes, the best option for Bend to do, is to keep making updates for the game, I fully support them doing it. However, my main point is, that no matter what, there will be a way around it. I think they should frequently patch, that's what'll stop 90% of the cheating.
There will be people who find their way around it, but the # of people who know how to get around multi-dma, or finding functions are quite limited.
Also, the system's buggy to begin with. Like I said before, it's just syphon filter, with different graphics. Now I can't uninvite people from my clan because there's symbols in the clan name, and causes it to mess up.
*ignores random trolls* Actually, I agree yourmistakes, the best option for Bend to do, is to keep making updates for the game, I fully support them doing it. However, my main point is, that no matter what, there will be a way around it. I think they should frequently patch, that's what'll stop 90% of the cheating.
There will be people who find their way around it, but the # of people who know how to get around multi-dma, or finding functions are quite limited.
Also, the system's buggy to begin with. Like I said before, it's just syphon filter, with different graphics. Now I can't uninvite people from my clan because there's symbols in the clan name, and causes it to mess up.
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by dudash - 2009-03-20 |
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» Epic Failure on the Devs Part
They say they are looking into handling the "cheaters",
But really they cant do ***** about it.
Leaving out an update feature disabled them from handling us.
So to anyone who hacks on R:R,
hack freely.
They cant do ***** about it.
They say they are looking into handling the "cheaters",
But really they cant do ***** about it.
Leaving out an update feature disabled them from handling us.
So to anyone who hacks on R:R,
hack freely.
They cant do ***** about it.
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Re: dudash - 2009-03-20 |
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» And To The Devs
I say, bring it on.
Anything you guys throw at us will be overcome.
I say, bring it on.
Anything you guys throw at us will be overcome.
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Re: billylee8 - 2009-03-20 |
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» Right on!
Radical dude! You show those evil devs that you mean business. Woah woah woah stay away from dudash! He's lowlife cheating scum and he ain't afraid to prove it.
Radical dude! You show those evil devs that you mean business. Woah woah woah stay away from dudash! He's lowlife cheating scum and he ain't afraid to prove it.
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Re: TheLastGuitarHero - 2009-03-21 |
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» ...
Billylee, stand back! He might bust out some "yo mama" jokes on you because he's a champ.
Honestly, "bring it on"? That's almost as bad as that BlackThorn kid telling him to "not hold back" or whatever when they argue. What is it with you cool kids thinking everyone is out to personally attack you on a forum about PSPs?
Billylee, stand back! He might bust out some "yo mama" jokes on you because he's a champ.
Honestly, "bring it on"? That's almost as bad as that BlackThorn kid telling him to "not hold back" or whatever when they argue. What is it with you cool kids thinking everyone is out to personally attack you on a forum about PSPs?
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by gr8tlegend - 2009-03-20 |
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» Cry me a river
Piracy this piracy that...if u don't want pirates then make ur f~ing games cheaper. we all know u can ! they were alway f~ing 60$ a game or how about this make better fing games! I buy games I really like even if can download them. but there are sum lazy ass dev's doing ***** like slapping diffrent skins on the same character and calling it new f~ing slap ur self. sum of ***** getting pirated is utter garbage anyway & ppl are defending this . they are stealing hard earned money from us when buy a game get home then get horribly disappointed!. rip off's and con artist.
Piracy this piracy that...if u don't want pirates then make ur f~ing games cheaper. we all know u can ! they were alway f~ing 60$ a game or how about this make better fing games! I buy games I really like even if can download them. but there are sum lazy ass dev's doing ***** like slapping diffrent skins on the same character and calling it new f~ing slap ur self. sum of ***** getting pirated is utter garbage anyway & ppl are defending this . they are stealing hard earned money from us when buy a game get home then get horribly disappointed!. rip off's and con artist.
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Re: NA1NSXR - 2009-03-21 |
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» hey douchebag
why don't you do a bunch of work for me, and do it for free *****got
why don't you do a bunch of work for me, and do it for free *****got
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by Atownaction - 2009-03-21 |
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» Man piracy is just one part of the situation......
There was an article a while ago on QJ about how the devs wasnt getting most of there profits because of how Gamestop was selling used games and taking it away from the devs like that I mean this crying about pirates doesnt make any sense its like a blame game......its bull*****.....
There was an article a while ago on QJ about how the devs wasnt getting most of there profits because of how Gamestop was selling used games and taking it away from the devs like that I mean this crying about pirates doesnt make any sense its like a blame game......its bull*****.....
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by Justingraziano - 2009-03-21 |
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» ...
Exactly, these pirates are a bunch of idiots, they really are. They dont understand how costly it is to make a game and think its ok to steal it. I'd like to see how they would feel if they spent millions of dollars on making a game just to see a bunch of people pirate it and them not make a cent off it.
Exactly, these pirates are a bunch of idiots, they really are. They dont understand how costly it is to make a game and think its ok to steal it. I'd like to see how they would feel if they spent millions of dollars on making a game just to see a bunch of people pirate it and them not make a cent off it.
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Re: DrWho1980 - 2009-03-21 |
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» hypocrite...
I'm sure you never used a xerox machine to make a copy of a book right? Or didn't it occur to you that when you copy part of a book, may it be for school or private purpose, you copy copyrighted material.
Its true that when you copy a game you actually steal it. but as stated before, when you don't have the money, you wouldn't buy it anyway.
oh, and btw... are all programs on your computer payed for? including shareware like Winzip, winrar or many other popular programs? Don't be a hypocrite. When you can afford it then buy it, when you can't afford it then its up to you to decide.
I'm sure you never used a xerox machine to make a copy of a book right? Or didn't it occur to you that when you copy part of a book, may it be for school or private purpose, you copy copyrighted material.
Its true that when you copy a game you actually steal it. but as stated before, when you don't have the money, you wouldn't buy it anyway.
oh, and btw... are all programs on your computer payed for? including shareware like Winzip, winrar or many other popular programs? Don't be a hypocrite. When you can afford it then buy it, when you can't afford it then its up to you to decide.
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Re: billylee8 - 2009-03-21 |
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» Come on
No doubt everyone has stolen something. But let's take this to the logical extension, shall we?
1. Everyone uses everything for free instead of paying for them.
2. Content creators never get paid.
3. Nothing new (of value) ever gets made.
And LOL @ "hypocrite." Maybe killers should keep on killing too, otherwise they'd just be hypocrites!
No doubt everyone has stolen something. But let's take this to the logical extension, shall we?
1. Everyone uses everything for free instead of paying for them.
2. Content creators never get paid.
3. Nothing new (of value) ever gets made.
And LOL @ "hypocrite." Maybe killers should keep on killing too, otherwise they'd just be hypocrites!
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Re: Justingraziano - 2009-03-21 |
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» ...
Yes, I have certainly pirated stuff be for. To be honest, I have never paid for a computer program in my life. The thing is that unlike computer programs, games cost millions to produce and its not just one person pirating, its probably 30% of PSP owners. Your right, the actual makers of the software do not make any additional money (they make the same regardless of how many copies a product sells), but if the company doesnt make enough then there not going to want to make anymore games for that platform.
Yes, I have certainly pirated stuff be for. To be honest, I have never paid for a computer program in my life. The thing is that unlike computer programs, games cost millions to produce and its not just one person pirating, its probably 30% of PSP owners. Your right, the actual makers of the software do not make any additional money (they make the same regardless of how many copies a product sells), but if the company doesnt make enough then there not going to want to make anymore games for that platform.
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Re: DrWho1980 - 2009-03-22 |
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» get your facts straightened
@billylee8 :
I'm not stating that everyone should start pirating software. But don't blame piracy for the failing of game companies. Piracy helps in the popularity of a game or system. Its a strange thing but its true. Sure the company gets stolen, but most of the people who copy a game/program wouldn't buy it anyway. That's a fact...
@Justingraziano:
My dear friend... don't misjudge the cost of developing a program. And not every game is that expensive to develop either. And 30% of the PSP owners?... where did you get that idea? The only people that I know that have a hacked PSP are the people who's PSP I've downgraded. And that's about 50 % of the people with a PSP I know. if I didn't downgrade there PSP I wouldn't know anyone with a hacked PSP. The percentage of hacked PSP's is probably about 5%. Thats would be 1 PSP out of 20. It might even be less.
I've told this once and I'll tell it again... I first bought a PSP for my son because I knew it could be hacked. I wouldn't have if it couldn't be hacked... I now own 2 PSP's, my gf owns 1 my daughter owns 1 her boyfriend owns one and my son owns one... thats a total of 6 PSP's in this household. Once in a while we do buy games. We wouldn't if we didn't have a PSP. So thanks to the fact that you can hack a PSP, Sony has sold 6 PSP's and about 7 games to this family.
again... thats a fact... end of my story
@billylee8 :
I'm not stating that everyone should start pirating software. But don't blame piracy for the failing of game companies. Piracy helps in the popularity of a game or system. Its a strange thing but its true. Sure the company gets stolen, but most of the people who copy a game/program wouldn't buy it anyway. That's a fact...
@Justingraziano:
My dear friend... don't misjudge the cost of developing a program. And not every game is that expensive to develop either. And 30% of the PSP owners?... where did you get that idea? The only people that I know that have a hacked PSP are the people who's PSP I've downgraded. And that's about 50 % of the people with a PSP I know. if I didn't downgrade there PSP I wouldn't know anyone with a hacked PSP. The percentage of hacked PSP's is probably about 5%. Thats would be 1 PSP out of 20. It might even be less.
I've told this once and I'll tell it again... I first bought a PSP for my son because I knew it could be hacked. I wouldn't have if it couldn't be hacked... I now own 2 PSP's, my gf owns 1 my daughter owns 1 her boyfriend owns one and my son owns one... thats a total of 6 PSP's in this household. Once in a while we do buy games. We wouldn't if we didn't have a PSP. So thanks to the fact that you can hack a PSP, Sony has sold 6 PSP's and about 7 games to this family.
again... thats a fact... end of my story
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by lislunatic - 2009-03-21 |
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» meh
Honestly, I pirate, it's just free vs can't afford to me.
However pirating is no excuse to not make good games. If devs made better games, they would get better sales too although along with more pirating.
Honestly, I pirate, it's just free vs can't afford to me.
However pirating is no excuse to not make good games. If devs made better games, they would get better sales too although along with more pirating.
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Re: billylee8 - 2009-03-21 |
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» Again with the "better games" argument
What, DJ Max and Dissidia aren't good enough for you?
What, DJ Max and Dissidia aren't good enough for you?
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by yorbs - 2009-03-21 |
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» Give us some stats!
I'd like to see some stats on piracy vs used games vs bought games, just to see what the ratio is.
I'd also be interested to see the ratio of good vs horrible games from the 80's, 90's and now. Seriously, the crap you have to wade thru these days.. it's just like Hollywood, everything is just a rehash, a skin of something else.. not many people are actually trying anymore.
Games, movies, entertainment is purely about making reliable business decisions.. "What worked in the past? Let's do that, it's safer and guaranteed ROI"
I'd rather wade thru 20 complete failures to find a gem, than 20 mediocre remakes!
Stop giving us the same s-hit over and over and over and over again.. do game devs even dream about making good games any more, or are they too busy dreaming about their next pay check?
I'd like to see some stats on piracy vs used games vs bought games, just to see what the ratio is.
I'd also be interested to see the ratio of good vs horrible games from the 80's, 90's and now. Seriously, the crap you have to wade thru these days.. it's just like Hollywood, everything is just a rehash, a skin of something else.. not many people are actually trying anymore.
Games, movies, entertainment is purely about making reliable business decisions.. "What worked in the past? Let's do that, it's safer and guaranteed ROI"
I'd rather wade thru 20 complete failures to find a gem, than 20 mediocre remakes!
Stop giving us the same s-hit over and over and over and over again.. do game devs even dream about making good games any more, or are they too busy dreaming about their next pay check?
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Re: GLO13AL_T3RROR - 2009-03-21 |
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» lol.
Its already mentioned above, because of "piracy and used games" Devs are discourage of making gamez.
Its already mentioned above, because of "piracy and used games" Devs are discourage of making gamez.
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by arishay - 2009-03-21 |
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» I'm not familiar
with the rules, but...shouldn't you not bluntly tell people that you pirate games? I mean, isn't that like saying "Hey QJ, you are harboring a criminal with the interwebz security blanket of anonymity!!1," except the user gets a perma-ban and QJ has to pray that there aren't lawsharks cruising by their site.
with the rules, but...shouldn't you not bluntly tell people that you pirate games? I mean, isn't that like saying "Hey QJ, you are harboring a criminal with the interwebz security blanket of anonymity!!1," except the user gets a perma-ban and QJ has to pray that there aren't lawsharks cruising by their site.
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Re: DrWho1980 - 2009-03-22 |
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» It has othing to do with QJ
QJ doesn't tell people its ok to pirate. its against there rules. They do however support homebrew... which isn't pirating.
If people copy games and admit it on there forum then its those people who are pro or semi pro pirating, and not QJ.
QJ doesn't tell people its ok to pirate. its against there rules. They do however support homebrew... which isn't pirating.
If people copy games and admit it on there forum then its those people who are pro or semi pro pirating, and not QJ.
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by GLO13AL_T3RROR - 2009-03-21 |
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» i hate the online cheaters more than anything!!GRR!!
ive been with psp scene for a long time and yea m not gonna say i don't pirate games but.....i don't play online games because of *****ing cheaters.
ive been with psp scene for a long time and yea m not gonna say i don't pirate games but.....i don't play online games because of *****ing cheaters.
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by ElfyEikkal - 2009-03-24 |
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» the last time i cheated.
oh yeah. i've NEVER cheated in an online game (sides. the 1st game i played online was Call of Duty World At War) and the last time i cheated was. when the previous playstations have gamesharks and codebreakers. and of course. PSP cwcheat (never played online. i don't touch the psp at home)
oh yeah. i've NEVER cheated in an online game (sides. the 1st game i played online was Call of Duty World At War) and the last time i cheated was. when the previous playstations have gamesharks and codebreakers. and of course. PSP cwcheat (never played online. i don't touch the psp at home)
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by villa69 - 2009-04-07 |
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» there is a tournament!
WANT TO PLAY FOR REAL TO WIN? Check out the info at http:www.myspace.com/pspresistance, http://tr.im/hu8K
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