Posted Aug 15, 2007 at 06:12PM by Ceasar S. Listed in: Homebrew Development, News Tags: Dark AleX, Custom Firmware, PSPGen, theketchupman, Team Wildcard
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WildC*rd makes a stand: use of leaked source code - Image 1Word from tipster EXTER had led us to an official statement by Team Wildcard - more officially branded as Team Wildc*rd - who in their own respects have done much for the PSP hhomebrew community.

PSP homebrew developers and followers already know the story behind the custom firmware source code leak, but the release of such code had obvious ramifications: developers now had the opportunity to release rip-off CFWs as they saw fit.

"Out of respect to the devs that worked so hard on this source and also out of respect for Dark_AleX, Team Wildc*rd politely requested that this source be used for educational purposes only and not for public releases," said the representative from Team Wildcard. But this statement prompted the need to tackle PSPGen's Ketchup (theketchupman in QJ.NET's Forums) and his use of the code for his recent releases.

It's no secret to Wildcard that Ketchup took his code direct from their source code for his release, which brought significant concern to them. "It is not that we do not respect Ketchup's work; on the contrary, we were quite impressed with what he had achieved. What we do not wish however, is for the source to be used," claimed the team.

They would allow the reversal of code from their .prx binaries to be used, because after all, that was how they came up with their own custom firmware code. "We completely reversed DA's PRX's rather than using his direct source. ... Even though members of Team Wildcard wish to remain anonymous, there are members that know DA personally and we can assure you we have his blessings," added Wildcard.

Contrary to opposite beliefs, Team Wildcard never had aspirations to release the source code, but due to mischievous circumstances, they had to act. And perhaps because of these conflicting views, some developers will not adhere to Wildcard's sincere call. "We cannot force anyone to do whatever we want. ... We cannot force you not to, we can only ask for you to respect our wishes," responded Wildcard.

Nevertheless, Wildcard still hopes to avoid the release "ripped clones" of CFWs. "I believe we are respecting [Dark Alex'] wishes that way. [Ketchup] may release a recovery, only if it's based on our prx and not the source code," the representative concluded.


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   by DfG09 (Unregistered) - 2007-08-15
 » .

1st, 2nd is gay


   Re: wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii (Unregistered) - 2007-08-15
 » join the battle

XiV clan is the untimate pwner in MOHH. u know it

   Re: matt (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » GPS attachment finally on sale for canadians!!

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   by demz = 1st (Unregistered) - 2007-08-15
 » srsly.

srsly, get your own CODE!

biters!

good job wildc*rd!

   by demz (Unregistered) - 2007-08-15
 » srsly.

srsly, get your own CODE!

biters!

good job wildc*rd!

   by DCJoeDog - 2007-08-15
 » Wildc*rd, what are we gonna do wih you?

So now stifiling the homebrew community is in the interest of the scene, or just team wilc*rd? You may as well accept that it's out there and stop being little *****es about it. You have said that your final code will be all original with no sony code so just make your own thing and let the cloners get sued.

   by Snarg (Unregistered) - 2007-08-15
 » .

Guys here's my credit card number.
But oh, by the way, nobody use it.

morons.


   Re: FreePlay (Unregistered) - 2007-08-15
 » Retard.

Guys, here's my credit card number, that someone ELSE posted online.

But oh, by the way, nobody use it.

   Re: TehSkeen (Unregistered) - 2007-08-15
 » Hmm...

No, here's my real name, which someone already told you, It's not something I can keep from you any more.

Just please, respect me and don't go spreading it.

You get it folks? The source was their SECRET, they were going to share it with the world, but someone couldn't wait, so someone found out, and told everyone. The only thing they could do about this, is tell everyone their secret anyway...

Remember, it was HACKERS that got it in the first place, they didn't drop it on the floor. Lamers came and stole it.

   Re: Snarg (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » .

Here comes FreePlay with his usual
"I'm so smart, you're all dumb" comments.
Everybody bow down. lmao
When you get your first pubic hair and start to a mature a little, you'll look back and realize how dumb you were.

But ok, I'll rephrase it for you, since you're still too dumb to get it.

Someone stole my credit card number, and hasn't even done anything with it, so here, I'm going to publicly release it to the world like a complete moron, and then wait a few weeks, and THEN tell you all that you're not allowed to use it.

Wow, when you say it even more accurately, it sounds even worse. Those guys are the dumbest ever. They fail at life, and so do you. But at least you're only 10 years old and there's still time for you.

   Re: jas0nuk (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » @Snarg

You know *nothing* about FreePlay.

   Re: Man you are dumber than I thought (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » You need to read more

You really need to read their statement and not just qj's news of it.

They DID steal it and they DID release it (and its still posted up as a sticky there those scum theif lamers). So wildcard then "officially" released it. You think wildcard wouldve released anything if the lamers didnt leak it?? Grow up man....

   Re: Snarg (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » .

jas0nuk

Wow, you told me.
Come up with something new, and we'll talk.

Man you are dumber than I thought (obviously freeplay)-

You are dumber than it's possible to imagine.
Where did I say that nobody stole it?
you're making points for something hasn't even been argued. Good job. What next? you're going to tell me I'm dumb because you failed at life?
Nobody's arguing that either. We all know.

   Re: doodad (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » ^^^

U sir, are F*CKING RETARDED! :)

   Re: Snarg (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » .

dosedad

Wow, your whit and intelligence are too much for me to handle.

Face the facts. If they wanted to make a statement like this. The DAY they released the source code was the time. Not 2 weeks later. That's plain idiotic. There's no way around it.

   Re: Ninja2507 (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » Snarg isn't the brightest

Yeah, someone else released it to make money by gaining hits on their site. Wildc*rd had to act fast.
Wildc*rd thus released it officially. Though I must say, if you release anything on the internet, sadly, it becomes fair game to anyone to do what they want to it. Sucks, but it's true.

Snarg, please think a little before torturing us with your ignorance.

   Re: Snarg (Unregistered) - 2007-08-17
 » .

lmao

Oh, the irony of your statement is just too painful.
   by Jsamp (Unregistered) - 2007-08-15
 » ***** this

Team Wildc*rd is using DA's source code and now they say not to use it. They are hypocrites. Da made the code in fact ***** tema wildcard and hale team m33 who has actually made a CF past 3.40.


   Re: FreePlay (Unregistered) - 2007-08-15
 » WRONG

They're NOT using Alex's source. They're using THEIR OWN SOURCE, REVERSE-ENGINEERED. If you think that this task is easy, do it your *****ing self.

   Re: tommy (Unregistered) - 2007-08-15
 » your retarded

they reversed enigeered his work. DA never released source code.

   Re: ks4life (Unregistered) - 2007-08-15
 » yea ok

at lease w*ld car isnt bashing out against ketchup. there exact words where "we were quite impressed with what he had achieved." they just relaese the code to broke that it was theirs. unlike team m33 who was bashing out other devs.

   Re: To Jsamp (Unregistered) - 2007-08-15
 » Listen...

You idiot, so by your reasoning, M33 is *also* using DA's code. Both Team Wildcard and Team M33 *reversed* OE. NO ONE used DA's source code but DA himself.

   Re: ME (Unregistered) - 2007-08-17
 » M33 bashing other DEVs

to be fair becus25 isnt much of a DEV
and M33 had a fair case to have a go at becus25 because all he did was add a recovery menu to M33's already finished product

becus25 and test30 deserved the bashing they got
   by Lawful123 (Unregistered) - 2007-08-15
 » Snake

Hey, see that tree? Yea, the one with the apples on it? I don't want you or Eve to eat them kay. We good like that Adam?


   Re: FreePlay (Unregistered) - 2007-08-15
 » Bad analogy

In this case, someone other than God put the tree there first, so God put another tree out there without the poison in it.
   by shuin0120 - 2007-08-15
 » small problem

thats the big problem for the team wildcard, the codes. they dont have -or- they dont have enough codes to fulfill the next new CFW.

   by Mom (Unregistered) - 2007-08-15
 » Time to stop crying...

One must consider this isn't a competition, we're a homebrew family. How about help each other produce better CFW instead of crying over someone stealing your source codes.

Let's think about the community and leave out your selfish pride.

All I'm hearing are B!tching and Crying from Team Wildc*rd.


   Re: shuin0120 - 2007-08-15
 » yeah

im half agree to what you said, but one must respect their work and the other people works and also when borrowing some works like codes must be in credits and have a proper permission so there is no fight am i right?

   Re: FreePlay (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » Go f*ck yourself.

Why don't YOU spend 2 months on a private project and have YOUR code leaked?

*****.

   Re: jas0nuk (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » PS3*****s

"Thinking about the community" and "forgetting selfishness" is EXACTLY what PS3*****s didn't do before they LEAKED the result of 2 months hard work. Get your facts straight before you accuse people of *****ing, *****.

   Re: jas0nuk (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » Heh

Wow, didn't realise the word filter was so touchy ;D
   by Big Babies (Unregistered) - 2007-08-15
 » Crying about their code

Who gives a flying monkey's ass what anyone does with some PSP code its not going to amount to ***** in the grand scheme of things
There's no money in it, just a bit of glory on some forums that
will die down after the PSP scene has moved on.
Why jump up and down about it.


   Re: tommy (Unregistered) - 2007-08-15
 » wrong

your point of view is iffy. you need to learn to code and put out stuff so you can see what devs' shoes are like.
   by Harp (Unregistered) - 2007-08-15
 » ..

It's out there, and it's gonna get used. Get over it.

   by gryphon (Unregistered) - 2007-08-15
 » Hey QJ, I have an idea!!!

I havent upgraded my CFW since DAX's 3.10 OE. I was quite sad to hear he left cuz his was the best and everyone knew it so there wasnt any question of which CFW to get. Now that hes gone, we have these 2 other CFW's (not to say that they arent as good) but which ones better?

Point being:
Can we have an in depth comparison of the 2 CFWs so that people know which one to install on their psp's. Just give us a run down of the good bad and ugly of both and it might do some good for the community. Just a thought...

Thanx

Gryph


   Re: Iceman (Unregistered) - 2007-08-15
 » Play nice

Here's a better idea, why don't you just STFU and go with the Sony Official Firmware if you can't decide without someone telling you which one is better.

Google it you lazy motherf*cker.

   Re: J (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » don't worry

it's icemans time of the month

thats a good idea... but just check on the forums..
im sure there are numerous threads with pros/cons of both
   by pppppppp (Unregistered) - 2007-08-15
 » haha

censorship is wrong


*****


   Re: no (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » no

no. spam is wrong, that includes all of FreePlay's trolling in the comment sections...

   Re: J (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » trolling?

Freeplay isn't trolling

hes makin sure these idiots get their FACTS straight

   Re: erekiddo (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » hahahaha

i always hated Freeplay and i get to see his F nick everyday !! he thinks he knows everything and even more hes sure hes the king of kings! F basher !

   Re: Snarg (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » .

Nope it's trolling.
He does it in alot of the blogs here.

   Re: FreePlay (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » You silly *****s.

I'm *working with this team.*

   Re: Snarg (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » .

What's your duty?
Trolling and acting like a self-important moron?
You remind me of Sketch before he finally started to grow up.

   Re: FreePlay (Unregistered) - 2007-08-17
 » Dearest Snarg

Next time you contribute something useful and positive to the community, you'll have a right to b*tch.

Until then, shut the f*ck up and learn your place :)
   by jas0nuk (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » lol

FreePlay has infinitely more intelligence than any of the troll *****gots who roam QJ comment sections put together.


   Re: Snarg (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » .

Ladies and gentlemen
Meet FreePlay's boyfriend - jas0nuk

Maybe you can get your nose out of there long enough to get some.

   Re: Yoshihiro (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » no

You're lame :+D

   Re: ME (Unregistered) - 2007-08-17
 » @snarg

Jas0nuk is a respected DEV responsible for PRX decrypter and other applications
i believe he is also a moderator on maxconsole where freeplay posts alot
if jas0nuk says freeplay knows his stuff, then freeplay knows his stuff
deal with the fact that freeplay knows a *****load more than you when it comes to PSP's and PSP homebrew development

   Re: Snarg (Unregistered) - 2007-08-17
 » .

Obviously neither of them know *****.
Or the code wouldn't have been stolen in the first place.

   Re: ME (Unregistered) - 2007-08-18
 » huh

the smartest man in the world is not immune to theft.
whether it be a piece of code or a car.
if someone wants to steal it, they'll find a way.
   by Smartest mofo here (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » Retards

Firstly, dax reverse engineered sony's firmware, which guess wat, its illegal. He didn't release his sourse, cos it's illegal. The reverse engineer his firmware then ***** cos they release it and say pls don't use our hard work.

Second, there is no possible way to make ur "own" firmware cos in the end it has to be practical to sony's anyways, so stfu u stupid morons

   by Jelly (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » a

Got a stutter? 'hhomebrew'? hehe.

   by hmm (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » but

I think its stupid they are claiming ownership of a source code that they got by reverse engineering.


   Re: yy (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » yy

also unless they release it under a license they cant do anything about the way ppl use it
   by Jesus Man (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » None of you morons get it

Team Wildc*rd put their own time and effort into this
project, they ultimately get the right to say when it's
released so that it's properly functioning, not bricking
PSP's and not full of glitches. It's called Quality Control
but, NOOOoooo, some Jack Hole that they trusted to
add code, broke the Dev Code of co-operation and
leaked it.

Thats not Team Wildc*rd fault.

So they come here to clarify this issue and all the
haters and the Pro M33 crowd are having a bash
frenzy with this, trying to bufuttle and mislead others
in the hopes that Team Wildc*rd looks a fool and M33
becomes glorious dev basher's. Poor Becus25 and
Team Wildc*rd.

Don't give up. Keep in mind, we are not all filthy
salivating hater noobs just out to cause grief to
any and all as possible before our own miserable
existences are extinguished.

   by q_dmc12 (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » They are still using some elses work

Team Wilc*rd would not have a "reversed engineered" code without DAX. They reversed Dax's code and now they say it is theirs. F*ck that! Even Team m33 at least said they used DAX's code and that they plan on keeping the legacy of CF's going. Team Wildcard cant even release a 3.52 CF obviously M33 is a better development team. Oh yeah F*ck becus25 he is a joke in the development community.


   Re: FreePlay (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » Idiot.

Next time you reverse engineer thousands of lines of code from binary and ASM, you will have the right to decide who does and does not own YOUR WORK.

F*ckwad.
   by Deus (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » Are you kidding me?

LOL Let me get this straight. The people who have ripped of someone elses firmware (Sony) are complaining that someone is using theirs? LMFAO!


   Re: FreePlay (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » Idiot.

Go back to ps3news.
   by Jesus Man (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » Jesus

It seems theres always a 10 to 1 ratio of
Flame Trollers in these posts.

Never being original, just perpetuating
further garbage of the mind.

Shows what kind of society we live in today.

I'm going to start stalking peregrinate
couples entering hospitals and any I deem
to even seem remotely stupid, I'm going to
enter the nursery and start killing potentially
stupid peoples offspring, just to thin out the
stupid people herd and preserve our future
from stupid people madness.

I fear that if I don't take on this mission
that we will soon become an Idiocracy State.

GOD I HATE STUPID PEOPLE.


   Re: Snarg (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » .

There's the problem right there.
You see, when you hate yourself. Life sucks, and all you can do is whine about it. Like you just did.
I'm feel sorry for you dude.

   Re: Iceman (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » Hmm...

I'd recommend you stop reading QJ blog comments, if it pisses you off so much.

Talking about whining.... geez.

   Re: doodad (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » agree with Jesus Man

Most (85-90%) of the posters here are complete idiots (like snarg)... i wish i could just reach out and smack em, but alas it doesn't work like that...

   Re: Snarg (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » .

Too funny.
You're so self absorbed that you actually believe you're not in that 85-90%

I feel sorry for you too. I wish there was a way to help people like you, but there just isn't. You're just stuck doing your dad.

   Re: anonymous poster (Unregistered) - 2007-08-17
 » the phrase "GOD I HATE STUPID PEOPLE"

HA! the average iq is 100 by definition. 7 percent of the british population has an iq above 140, 2 percent over 160. i have no idea which bracket you call stupid, but say 120 and below , and your dissing over half the population!. intelligence isnt everything.
   by FreePlay (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » You should be f*cking ashamed of yourselves.

The comments on this article go to show how f*cking ignorant and ungrateful QJ's users are.

Go to Maxconsole or DCEMU and take a good look at the comments posted there in response to this. Not a single one blasting WildC*rd.

You people are f*cking disgusting.


   Re: Jesus Man (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » FreePlay

Exactly! Thats why I'm starting to get a little
unhinged and half *****ed on these stupid flame trollers. QJs got the worst, I mean bottom of the barrel, posters you've ever seen. It's like a playground for stupid people. I just wish I could through them some Knives and start telling them jokes.
   by Jesus Man (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » FreePlay

Ever wish there was a magic bullet for stupid people?
Just fire one off in the sky and start watching ass
hole drop dead all around you.

GOD it would be a dream come true.

I'm very intolerant when It comes to ignorant people
in case you hadn't already noticed. Just tired of being
constantly inconvenienced by others that don't care
to even try to use their brain for even a millisecond.


   Re: Snarg (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » .

It's a nice idea in theory. Unfortunately, you'd only get one shot off.
   by *sigh* (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » QJ, disable anonymous comments

Another fine example of why anonymous comments need to be disabled. I do hope people realise that those above comments are actually from that Lamer site. They are not happy about what Wildcard wrote about them in their statement so they come here and post anonymous comments bagging out Wildcard. This is just another example of their scumbag tactics. Believe me, for those who do not know, go have a search of their history, there have been hundreds of examples of lowlife sh*t those Lamers have done (the admin is just an immature child you cant take it when someone says bad things about him - hence why you get instabanz from their forums if you say anything bad about him. He then deletes your post and replaces it with your IP info. Now talk about lame & desparate).


   Re: Jesus Man (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » Disable Anonymous Comments.

I've been saying this for a year and a half but apparently QJ thinks their readership will fall through the floor if kids can't join and losers think they can't talk trash anonymously any longer. It's like their sole reason for posting, so they can vent their anguish from being bullied all day at school.
   by Jesus Man (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » Well.

M33 is a bunch of Pinko Communist Bastards
and ANY Amercian cought with M33 loaded
onto their PSP's supports Communistic Societies.

QJ needs to drop M33 like a trick hooker
with one leg and a pair of balls.


   Re: DuRoluRo (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » bla bla bla...!

I'd rather live in a communist regime than in the country of Hitler Jr. (Bush)...

moron

   Re: DuRoLuRo (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » By the way..

I'm not just trying to defend my country..

I live in Denmark, which is just a waste of space really..!

   Re: doodad (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » LMAO!

Dude! Ur posts are hilarious! Great to see that there's some intelligent people here :)

   Re: Snarg (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » .

yeah racism is just so funny. Wow, you're so clever.
Not sure who's more idiotic. The racist, or the guy who praises racism as being intelligent. lmao

   Re: ME (Unregistered) - 2007-08-18
 » um

Russia hasnt been communist since 1992
living in the past a bit arent we
   by anonymous poster (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » this...

right. wildcard put in the work. team m33 are *****s. reverse engineering is kosher ,rippng the work off is not. go wildcard , f*ck team m33. kudos to team wildcard. i respect m33s programming abilities but not in this context, the b*llends.

   by jas0nuk (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » Read these, douchebags

http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=74751
http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=71280

Examples of some decent people who actually appreciate the hard work that Team Wildcard put in and had taken away from them by PS3Lamers


   Re: ULO (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » Appreciation confirmed...

Yeah, everyone appreciate Team Wildc*rd for releasing outdated CFW.

WTF is up with the Russians, releasing up to date CFW, they must be out of their mind.

   Re: jas0nuk (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » ..

Did I mention M33 in my post? No, douchebag.
   by jon (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » to snarg

dame dude snarg you have talked more ***** that the black girls in my hood,

bet you feel like a big person putting all them people down,


good job....


   Re: Snarg (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » .

It's nice to be appreciated.
   by Cloudhunter (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » Lamers.

You know, I can see why people stop developing for the PSP scene, when faced with ungrateful *****s such as yourselves :)

Cloudy


   Re: anonymous poster (Unregistered) - 2007-08-17
 » this..

hmm, someones forgetting that the number of ungratefull *****s posting on this thread only represent a minority of the psp scene, the vast majority are not as vocal as those above, and so are being condemned rather harshly. cool it.

   Re: NeO (Unregistered) - 2007-08-23
 » why devs stop devving

I do a bit of scene devving, the first reply is so true here, I see all this going on and wonder if i can really be bothered, I'll just keep my brew for personal and close friends use, and anyone else who takes a keen interest.

Respect to all devs whoever they are, not everyones perfect, but having your source leaked is a *****.

I have no comments to make on "lamers" that breach the scene, they aren't worth the effort.

But i certainly gie shouts and respect to anyone and everyone who takes part ingiving me a system to dev brew for because without them, My PSP would be in a drawer on official FW 2.14 or something gathering dust.

Respect and shouts to everyone who actually contributes to this scene. Kudos.
   by Jesus Man (Unregistered) - 2007-08-16
 » Thanks Doodad

I live to make people smile in the heat of ignorance.
Just a little fodder to banter around about.

Stupid people always make for great pinatas
but my club always has spikes.



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